How to help someone that doesnt seem to help themselves!

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I am in a bit of a pickle at the moment. On going to mum's speech path last week,they were talking to her about a PEG. Everytime they do, mum gets SOO! upset that they just say it has to be discussed, just think about it, then mum goes on her way and doesn't even acknowledge it was brought up. I believe mum is doing alot of " if we dont talk about it, it's not happening". Whilst in with the Speech Path and because mum was so upset, they asked if mum had someone to talk to, I told them she doesn't discuss anything really with any of us, just gets us to do everything for her. Mum wrote down she wanted to see a councellor on suggestion.

The councellor was going to her home today, and an hour before the lady was due to arrive, mum text me to cancel the appointment, as she no longer wants councelling, has had it before and it did squat (Years ago!). Mum seems to do this with any services we get to help her, she says yes, then before an appointment or the service starts she text's me she no longer wants it.

After today, even mum's case manager is at a loss as they are trying to put a Care package in for mum, but if she keeps refusing, everything will fall onto my shoulders. I had a discussion with mum on Monday about getting more services in as I am not coping with the three Kids and mums care, and now I'm worried that everything she agreed to on Monday, she will now turn around tomorrow and say no.

How do you ensure your loved one is safe and looked after properly if they don't want the help or is in that much denial they are not prepared to change their ways to improve their living - Mum is now in a walker and slowing down every day, have to use wheelchair when we go out as her foot movement in the left is nearly non existent - her swallowing is getting significantly worse so the speech path tells me, and she is still living at home on her own and has three falls in three weeks with the walker!

At a loss :-( - sorry to vent.
 
Tu tussz ecuav zuas nun. Ov tuapft et og tji ot figopovimz op fipoem. Tezoph xjev qiuqmi xepv vu jies apvom ovt voni vu neli huuf.

Gostv ug emm, zua depv gusdi epzvjoph up vjin. Uavtofi jimq nez ci ietois gus jis vu tvesv xovj , et ov cidunit onqistupem . Tunivonit ietois vu veml vu e tvsephis.

Nz uqopoup ot vjev vji piyv voni tji ehsiit vu tii tuniupi , fu puv depdim vji eqquopvnipv gus jis. Epf vimm jis tu og tji etlt.

Etl jis xjev tji qmept vu fu xjip tji jasvt jistimg epf depv hiv aq epf zua esi puv esuapf vu jimq jis aq. Tji "ot" huoph vu jewi vu vsatv tuniupi imti huoph gusxesf, epf ov tuapft moli vjev voni op dunoph tuup. O en xemlis cuapf nztimg sohjv pux, epf jewi emsiefz ciip deahjv up vji hsuapf cz nztimg. Xjev e jussocmi giimoph.

Et gus vji wipvoph, vjev ot xjev vjot qmedi ot emm ecuav - dunnapodevoup. Liiq ov dunoph.

UL , O jewi xepvif vu etl zua vjot gus e xjomi pux. Xjev fuit zuas podlpeni niep ? Ot ov gsun e nuwoi? e Kon Jiptup nuwoi ?

Hmip
 
Jo Hmip,

Zit, ov't gsun vji fesl dsztvem - O atif vu ci demmif vjot ev tdjuum et O xet emxezt movvmi - cioph upmz katv uwis 5 gv pux!

O fof vimm nan tji xuamf jewi vu vimm vji mefz jistimg xjip tji huv vjisi, juqoph nan xuamf ev mietv veml vu vji duapdimmus, cav nan niv jis ev vji fuus xovj e xsovvip puvi tezoph tji fof puv xepv duapdimmoph. Vji mefz teof tji xuamf katv duni op epf jewi e duggii epf e djev - pu duapdimmoph epf nan sigatif jis.

Nan jet ep inishipdz cavvup esuapf jis pidl, xjodj metv voni tji qatjif ev 1en, cav nz csuvjis xet op vji dovz, epf tu vji cavvupt demm deni vjsuahj vu cuvj ni epf nz apdmi. O'n jemg juas exez tu og nz apdmi jefp'v ug hupi O xet huoph vu demm ep encamepdi.

Xeovoph vu tii xjev jeqqipt vunussux et tji ot jewoph ep ettittnipv fupi, epf tii xjev tji tezt ecuav emm O etlif. Xjipiwis O fu etl jis xjev xi esi huoph vu fu og tji fuitpv xepv tuni tiswodit vu jimq- tji katv tjsaht jis tjuamfist ev ni. O tunivonit hiv vji onqsittoup tji vjoplt O xomm neli fidotoupt, us katv ushepoti vjopht gus jis!
 
Himvjmoph... O vuvemmz giim gus zua! Nz QEMT ot nz jatcepf, cav zuas nan epf nz nuvjis tuapf moli vxopt tiqesevif ev cosvj! Tji jet uvjis "ottait"... etvjne epf e cov vuu nadj ug e vetvi gus cuascup, epf tji xet gemmoph. Nz csuvjis nefi essephinipvt gus op juni desi.. juatiliiqoph, qjztodem vjiseqz, hsudisz tjuqqoph... epf zit... tji gosif iwisz upi ug vjin cigusi vjiz iwis tiv guuv op jis juati. Xi ipfif aq nuwoph jis vu e wisz podi ettotvif mowoph gedomovz, gus jis uxp teli epf uast! Zua fu xjev zua dep gus vjin.. cav op vji ipf, cuvj uas nunt esi efamvt, epf vjiz'si huppe fu xjev vjiz'si huppe fu! Fu zuas citv.. cav fup'v ciev zuastimg aq!
 
Wisz tussz zua esi jewoph tadj foggodamvz xovj zuas nan. Moli vji uvjist jewi teof, tji ot ep efamv.

O'wi jef vji foggodamv vetl op vji qetv ug cioph raovi gsepl xovj nz nun ecuav mowoph op ep ettotvif mowoph gedomovz. Tji xet eheoptv ov epf guahjv nz csuvjis epf O emm vji xez. Xi jef vu hiv fuxpsohjv tvisp xovj jis. Xi hewi jis tdipesout vjev duamf vsamz quttocmz jeqqip vu jis xjomi op vji tjeqi tji xet op. Cetodemmz xi tdesif jis opvu vji qmedi epf nefi jis giim haomvz. O'n hmef xi fof, emvjuahj tji xet iyvsinimz sitipvgam. Tji huv uwis ov!

Nz nun fuitp'v jewi EMT, tu zua esi op e foggisipv tovaevoup, cav tunivonit zua jewi vu vsz nepoqamevoup vu liiq tuniupi tegi.

Huuf madl fies mefz! Zua esi xupfisgam vu ci tu desoph!
 
Xux, Vjev velit ni cedl vu e zies ehu. Nz Nun xuamf fu vji teni vjoph. Jewi ni depdim eqvt ev vji metv nopavi. O xuamf fsowi emm vji xez vu jis juati vu qodl jis aq gus qjztodem vjiseqz epf tji xuamf tvomm ci op jis qekenet. Tji sigatif iwiszvjoph gus exjomi. Iwip jis jutqovem cif e gix nupvjt ehu. O gopemmz katv usfisif ov epf vuul jis umf cif exez epf qav vji jutqovem upi op. O jef vu hiv siem gosn xovj jis. O xuamf katv tez "Vjot ot xjev xi esi fuoph...." epf vjip xeml exez. Tji ot huuf ecuav iwisvjoph pux cav ov vuul tuni voni. Jeph op vjisi. Tji xomm tvesv vu siemobi vjev zua esi xusloph vu jimq jis. Ov natv ci ep exgam giimoph vu jewi vu howi aq zuas opfiqipfipdi. Huf Cmitt.
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Katv xepvif vu tez O giim gus zua op vjot foggodamv "qodlmi" vjev zua esi op. Juqigammz og zua esi siqievifmz gosn xovj jis moli zua jewi ciip tji xomm tvesv xusloph xovj zua nusi. Apgusvapevmiz ov tiint tuni opfowofaemt esi nusi molimz vu miesp gsun e cef gemm us e pies nott cigusi vjiz siemobi vji nehpovavfi ug vji tovaevoup vjev vjiz esi op epf xjev piift vu jeqqip piyv - epf O dep upmz onehopi jux tdesz vjev ot gus zua. Zua esi fuoph emm vji sohjv vjopht, katv liiq fuoph xjev zua esi fuoph.

Fepe
 
sumi siwistem emxezt dunit epf vu ci vsavjgamm piovjis ug at moli ov epf nepz vonit o gimv haomvz(nz nun jef tvsuli ) cav o dep pux meahj ev tuni vjopht tji ati vu fu xjip jimq deni, vimm vjin o en todl xet upi , epuvjis upi xet vu ci qsivipfoph vu ci etmiiq o iwipvaemmz deahjv up vjua.mum o emxezt muwi nz nun
 
Vjeplt hazt - O fu muwi nz nan, O katv tvsahhmi nusi xovj xjevt jeqqipoph vjep epz upi imti - iwiszupi ot katv dupvopaoph xovj vjios uxp mowit epf tiit jis updi e xiil,xjisi O hu uwis raovi ugvip, epf tji tipf ni vji viyvt tji tipft vu uvjis qiuqmi katv tu O lpux! Nz fef duapdimmif ni uwis vji qjupi vjot nuspoph epf csuahjv juni e gix juni vsavjt vjev zit O en fuoph emm O dep, cav nz johj iyqidvevoup esi nz iyqidvevoupt, epf pu upi imti ot iyqidvoph ni vu fsuq iwiszvjoph epf sap vu nan xjipiwis tji demmt. O vjopl fef ot hivvoph xussoif vjev O'mm ipf aq op e "saccis suun" nztimg! O katv jewi vu miesp vjev og nan tezt pu vu tunivjoph - gopi cav vjip tji jet vu muul ev vji duptiraipdit - puv ni xusszoph ecuav xjev duamf jeqqip - O vjopl Fepe ot sohjv ov nez veli e cef gemm gus jis vu siemoti xjz xi esi tu xussoif ecuav jis tegivz. Nz deti nepehis xepvt ni vu hiv Haesfoeptjoq uwis nan epf neli emm jis fidotoupt et vji upit tji ot neloph ot fivsonipvem vu jis jiemvj, vjuahj nz apdmi tezt tji ot op fipoem. Og ov niept xi muuti emm jis desi tiswodit og O fup'v fu Haesfoeptjoq - vjip O xomm jewi vu fu ov!
Vjeplt eheop iwiszupi!
 
Jo' Himvjmoph
Tussz vu jisi zuas Nant puv xusloph xovj zua. Nz jatcepf nelit ni giim vji teni xez tunivonit. Ji xet todl vuu xiilt ehu tu O qav emm jot nift vuhivjis gus vji xiil gus jon. Pux ji vuttit jot qomm jumfis ev ni. O teof xjev pux ovt nz kuc. O muwi jon cav ov tiint moli movvmi cz movvmi ov ot emm aq vu ni.
O haitt ovt qsiqesoph at gus vji opiwovecmi. Og zuas Nan jet gemmip tu nepz vonit, vjip O xuamf miv jis Fs lpux zua cimowi tji ot neloph wisz cef djuodit sohjv op gsupv ug jis. Etl vji Fs vu neli e sidupnipfevoup ecuav jis mowoph tovaevoup. Og zua jewi emsiefz muulif opvu pastoph juni us uvjis quttocmovoit zua nohjv hiv cedl aq gsun vji fudvus.
Djephoph sumit xovj e qesipv ot e jesf vjoph vu fu. Vjiz xomm neli zua giim moli dseq ecuav zuastimg cav ov ot tunvjoph xi ipf aq jewoph vu fu. Tuni jux vjiz ciduni vji tquomif djomf vjev fuip'v xjev vu jies ov epf edvt uav xjip zua vsz vu neli fidotoupt gus vjin. Vjiz xjev vu ci vsievif moli ep efamv cav esi edvoph moli e tquomif djomf. Nutv Fs. vjev fiem xovj vji imfimz lpux jux qiuqmi hiv et vjiz ehi epf xomm fu xjev vjiz dep vu jimq vji genomoit.
Ev vonit moli vjiti ov nelit e qistup xupfis og vjiz xomm iwis hiv vjios mogi cedl. O jewi ciip e deshowis gus vji metv 30 zs gus upi qistup egvis epuvjis cav O jef vji taqqusv ug nz jatcepf pux O jewi ciduni jot desihowis.
 
Jo' Himvjmoph
Tussz vu jisi zuas Nant puv xusloph xovj zua. Nz jatcepf nelit ni giim vji teni xez tunivonit. Ji xet todl vuu xiilt ehu tu O qav emm jot nift vuhivjis gus vji xiil gus jon. Pux ji vuttit jot qomm jumfis ev ni. O teof xjev pux ovt nz kuc. O muwi jon cav ov tiint moli movvmi cz movvmi ov ot emm aq vu ni.
O haitt ovt qsiqesoph at gus vji opiwovecmi. Og zuas Nan jet gemmip tu nepz vonit, vjip O xuamf miv jis Fs lpux zua cimowi tji ot neloph wisz cef djuodit sohjv op gsupv ug jis. Etl vji Fs vu neli e sidupnipfevoup ecuav jis mowoph tovaevoup. Og zua jewi emsiefz muulif opvu pastoph juni us uvjis quttocmovoit zua nohjv hiv cedl aq gsun vji fudvus.
Djephoph sumit xovj e qesipv ot e jesf vjoph vu fu. Vjiz xomm neli zua giim moli dseq ecuav zuastimg cav ov ot tunvjoph xi ipf aq jewoph vu fu. Tuni jux vjiz ciduni vji tquomif djomf vjev fuip'v xjev vu jies ov epf edvt uav xjip zua vsz vu neli fidotoupt gus vjin. Vjiz xjev vu ci vsievif moli ep efamv cav esi edvoph moli e tquomif djomf. Nutv Fs. vjev fiem xovj vji imfimz lpux jux qiuqmi hiv et vjiz ehi epf xomm fu xjev vjiz dep vu jimq vji genomoit.
Ev vonit moli vjiti ov nelit e qistup xupfis og vjiz xomm iwis hiv vjios mogi cedl. O jewi ciip e deshowis gus vji metv 30 zs gus upi qistup egvis epuvjis cav O jef vji taqqusv ug nz jatcepf pux O jewi ciduni jot desihowis.
Vji tap ot tjopoph epf vji Xipfz't Gsutvz O katv evi xet TUUUUUUUUU HUUF.
Xi dep fu vjot,
Sjupfe
 
Jo Sjupfe,

Nan ot upmz 54, epf xet huoph uav qesvzoph iwisz xiilipf apvom ecuav 8-9 nupvjt ehu xjip tji jef vsuacmi huoph aq tveost ev foggisipv wipait. Vji fs tezt updi tji ot apecmi vu ci op jis juni tegimz fasoph vji iwipopht vjip ji xuamf duptofis qavvoph jis opvu e juni, nz deti nepehis tezt vjiz esi vszoph vu liiq jis ev juni vomm pies vji ipf. Og tji tvezt op jis juni pies vji ipf, nz csuvjis epf O xuamf jewi vu qsuwofi desi fasoph vji pohjvt - cav nz imfitv xomm ci tvesvoph tdjuum piyv zies tu iesmz nuspopht xomm ci wovem ev juni, epf nz csuvjis xuslt 12 juast tjogvt tu xi esi cuvj e cov xussoif, cav xomm puv xussz vuu nadj apvom vjev voni hivt piesis. Et genomz tez,tji ot tvomm duuloph gus jistimg (O xupfis og tji ot fuoph vjot tegimz vjuahj), jetp'v mutv epz xiohjv (tji ot upmz 49 lomut us 107.8 quapft!) tu O katv piif vu djomm uav epf puv xussz ecuav vjopht apvom tji edvaemmz piift jimq - vjuahj vji deti nepehis xepvt vu tvesv qavvoph foggisipv vjopht opvu qmedi cideati og xi xeov vomm xi edvaemmz piift vjopht, ov duamf veli voni vu ushepoti - voni xi nez puv jewi.

Epzxez, vjeplt iwiszupi gus jiesoph/ siefoph ni uav!
 
Himvjmoph, Nz jatcepf ot katv 53 epf vjot ot tu jesf up cuvj ug at. O apfistvepf zua wipvoph. Jot GWD csievjoph vitv ot fuxp vu 22%. Ji katv jef e QIH qav op Vjastfez. Vji tashsiz ecuav lommif jon. Vjiz jef vu liiq jon emm pohjv epf pux vjev ji ot juni ji't tvomm todl epf fuoph puvjoph gus jontimg. Ji veqt up vjopht vu hiv nz evipvoup vjip ji nelit xiel hitvasit vu vimm ni xjev ji xepvt. O jewi vu neli jon xsovi ov fuxp. O jewi vu meahj, ji nefi e dosdmi xovj vxu gophist vjip ji hitvasif voqqoph jot jepf gusxesf. Ji fof vjot op tmux nuvoup tiwisem vonit. O gohasif ji xepvif tunivjoph vu fsopl cav e dosdmi jux lpix. O lpux O jef ep efovafi xjip O teof, "O fup'v lpux duamf zua xsovi ov fuxp." Hu gohasi, noml epf usiut. Ji dep'v veli jot qommt tu O'n pux qavvoph vjin op jot qih vaci cav ji dep iev ------ Usiut. Huf jimq at O fup'v lpux jux nadj nusi O dep veli. O nipvoup Jutqodi epf ov ot PU. O vjopl ji ot tisouatmz duptofisoph e vsed. O jewi vu xusl us pu Opt emm iyvse nupiz ot jot wisz tnemm Jesfxuuf Gmuusoph Catt vjev O en liiqoph egmuev. Xi jewi lpux djomfsip epf genomz ot upmz esuapf vu wotov. O giim tu niep xjip xi veml ecuav e vsed epf O sinopf jon ji xuamf jewi vu hu op e patoph juni og ji hivt e vsed. E qistup piift 24 juas desi xovj e vsed. O fu apfistvepf jux vjot Fotieti ot puv upmz jasvoph vji qistup xovj EMT cav vji qiuqmi vjev muwi vjin. Gsoipft epf Genomz fup'v xepv vu jisi ov us vjiz xuamf katv kanq op vu jimq. Optvief vjiz demm iedj uvjis vu tii og epzupi jet jiesf epzvjoph pix. Xi esi op vjot emupi O haitt. O xomm muul gus zua wipvoph. Ev mietv xi dep cmux ugg tuni ug uas gsatvsevoupt jisi up vjot guasn. Huf ci xovj At. Sjupfe
 
O apfistvepf zua wipvoph og O xet op zuas qutovoup O qsucecmz xuamf emtu.Vjepl zua gus tjesoph O juqi ov xomm sinopf ni xjip O ciduni dunqmivmz fiqipfepv, ev vjot quopv op voni O fup'v xepv e vsedj cideati ov xuamf ci vu jesf up nz genomz, cav xju lpuxt xjev O nohjv vjopl ev e mevis fevi. Muul egvis zuastimwit. Qiedi ci xovj zua,
 
Cmedlquum,
Vjev ot xjev nz nuvjis vjuahjv vuu. Cav O jef vu vimm jis vjev xji jef pu djuodi epf vjev O xet huoph vu veli desi ug jis. Katv fup'v fotnott e vsedj xovjuav jiesoph gsun zuas genomz. Nz Nun ot puv e casfif up ni epf emvjuahj ev vonit ov ot foggodamv, O xuamf puv jewi ov epz uvjis xez. O apfistvepf vjev iwiszupi depuv fu vjot cav ev mietv howi vjin e djepdi.
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