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Used Permobil M300 Powerchair

RichDFlo2129

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Selling a used Permobil M300 powerchair. In good condition, wasn't used too long. Had a few adjustments made, such as caregiver joystick added to the back but this can be taken off. Located in Tucson, AZ, $1000
 

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noska

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2 questions:
1. Are you open to ship it to florida (I pay for shipping)
2. If it needed for guy who is 6 feet tall, would it fit?
 

RichDFlo2129

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I wouldn't be opposed to shipping it if fees were paid on your behalf. Yes it will fit someone 6ft, my girlfriends father used it and he was 6'2.
 

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For those in the forum considering purchasing this, here are some of my insights.

I have no hesitation buying lightly-used, late-model wheelchairs. I have bought 3 used wheelchairs.

When looking to purchase a used wheelchair, I recommend that you look at the date of manufacture and the total miles on the wheelchair.

Each Permobil wheelchair has a manufacturing tag showing the serial number and date of manufacture. You can call Permobil and give them the serial number. They will tell you how the wheelchair was configured when delivered. That way, you can know what, if any, modifications have been done.

With the date of manufacture, you can make sure that it is a current-enough model that parts will be readily available. I buy most of the parts for my used wheelchairs off of ebay. Oddly enough, parts can be hard to come by for wheelchairs less than 2 years old.

Also, Permobil makes changes within their models across years. Parts for a given model made in 2012 may not work on the same model made in 2015. Permobil can tell you exactly what part numbers you need, which has been of great value to me.

Wheelchairs wear out with mileage. It is important to check the odometer to make sure the mileage is acceptable to you. I bought one permobil with 26 miles and other with 34 miles on the odometer. I would hesitate to buy one with more than 100 miles on the odometer. I have seen many listed with less than 10 miles on the odometer.

When you buy a used wheelchair, you can expect that it will need a new set of batteries. A set of MK (the only brand of lead acid gel batteries I use) group 24 batteries costs about $1,000 through NuMotion and about $500 if purchased online.

If you do buy a used wheelchair, be prepared to spend money getting it fitted correctly. A good fit is essential, especially for us. I typically spend about $1,000 buying parts on ebay for each used wheelchair.

The specific wheelchair listed has a head array. Those are expensive and would be great to have if you need it. If you don't need it, you will need to buy a headrest. Headrests tend to be expensive.

It is unlikely the seat bottom width and length are correct for you. Both can be adjusted within a certain range. To adjust outside that range requires a new part (a seat plate). Those come up on ebay pretty often.

For a modern Permobil, the seat will be a Corpus 3G seat. I would not encourage buying one with an older seating system.

With the Corpus 3G seating system, the back can be lengthened or shortened easily without additional parts. The exception is if the top part of the shell has been removed and discarded for the shortest seating position. That does not look like the case for the wheelchair in question.

If the size of the seat or back are adjusted, new cushions will be needed. They are surprisingly expensive.

The chair in question has different arm rests. If you want the same on each side, you will need to buy at least one arm rest.

I can't make out from the rather dark pictures whether or not lateral thigh supports are included. I find those necessary.

I don't see any transfer handles, which I find useful.

The wheelchair looks like it has the standard thoracic supports, which are not nearly sufficient for me. On the Corpus 3G seating, I need the swing away lateral thoracic supports. Your needs may differ from mine, though.

The wheelchair has a single piece footplate, which I don't like. All my wheelchairs have a separate foot plate for each foot. I fold up one footplate or another on a regular enough basis to consider that a requirement for my needs.

I can't tell from the pictures whether the joystick module has a color or a monochrome LCD screen. I would not consider the monochrome version.

Many of the joystick modules get cracked and that crack leads all the way to and into the LCD screen. It is important to see a closeup of that showing its condition.

Overall, I can't comment on whether or not this particular wheelchair will be a good fit for your needs. Better pictures, especially pictures of the manufacturing tag and a picture of the joystick module displaying the total miles would help you figure that out.

From looking at the pictures, dark though they are, I am guessing that this is an older generation Permobil M300 wheelchair. Better and more comprehensive pictures would allow you to determine whether or not that is the case.

Steve
 

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Steve, you are a fabulous resource!

Isn't it ironic--if money is tight, buying a $1000 chair could end up being more expensive in the long run than purchasing a new one. We picked up a used, beat up chair as a backup and paid to have new batteries, tires, and controller put on it. Ultimately, it did not fit Matt properly and he had to stop using it once his core muscles weakened.
 

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Thank you for all these advises. I will try to research as much as I can but unfortunately my friend with ALS in Russia and it's no way they can get all adjustments that needed :( Insurance over there is covering ONLY regular wheelchair not mobile one and Permobil would be > $10,000 that is not affordable with their pensions < $200/month. ALS in Russia considered no treatment disease and nothing is covered by insurance. My friend is not able to get out of house since September last year and spend all time in bed. Was hoping to help him....
 

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There is probably not a good solution for you, other than to have someone donate a wheelchair.

Any power wheelchair you obtain, regardless of age or brand, will require that various parts be replaced to fit the wheelchair to the user.

You will also be looking at the costs of shipping the wheelchair to Russia.

I think any path you take will cost thousands of dollars, even if the wheelchair is free.

If cost is a paramount factor, I would would recommend buying a wheelchair locally. You don't want to pay the costs of shipping a wheelchair to your place in addition to the costs of having it outfitted correctly, and then shipping it to Russia.

I have had good luck buying used wheelchairs off of craigslist. You must be cautious and do your research, but you can find good deals there.

As a final note, it is possible to get a reasonably good fit with some simple body measurements. When I acquired my first wheelchair, the specialist measured me and we ordered the wheelchair. It was an amazingly good fit. We had to fine tune a few things, but it did not require any replacement parts.

Steve
 

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2 questions:
1. Are you open to ship it to florida (I pay for shipping)
2. If it needed for guy who is 6 feet tall, would it fit?
Are you still looking for a chair?
 
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