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Updated list of PALS who underwent non-ALS related procedures that needed anesthesia and/or sedation and Propofol was the anesthetic used on them.
They reported some improvements on their ALS symptoms and here is the updated list of these PALS (some of them are not members of these Forums but ALS-TDI Forums):





Propofol Testimonials (revised list)

Date: July 25, 2013

We now have more than 12 ALS patients who have reported significant improvements after undergoing anesthesia.


Patient: Cypress
Improvements: increased dexterity, better speech and swallowing
Dose: 800 mg, 1200 mg
When noticed: same day
Duration: noticeable regress after day 9
Note: Major gains from 800 mg of Propofol + sevoflurane. Minor gains from 1200 mg propofol

Patient: Jason
Improvements: normal pft and emg after, increased right arm/shoulder strength, better swallowing with no choking
Dose: 150mg initially then small incremental doses after.
When noticed: same day, right after the procedure
Duration: about 1 month
Note: Jason received 400 mg of propofol during a second procedure on June 26 and, a few hours later, reported stronger improvements than he experienced the first time.

Patient: GusGargoyle
Improvements: complete remission of symptoms
Dose: 1140 mg
When noticed: 1 day after
Duration: about 2 weeks

Patient: lochnerd
Improvements: better speech and swallowing after 2 procedures
Dose: standard sedation dose
When noticed: about 2 days after
Duration: about 1 week

Patient: ichisan's wife
Improvements: spectacular improvements on 3 occasions, complete remission once
Dose: approximately ?, 1200, 1100 mg
When noticed: next day
Duration: from a few days to 2 weeks
Note: First anesthetic may have been sevoflurane, dose unknown

Patient: hjlindley
Improvements: improved neurological exams after spine surgery, improved walking
Dose: unknown
When noticed: unknown
Duration: unknown
Note: type of anesthetic is not yet known

Patient: laluzdelaman's PALS
Improvements: experienced a steadying of his gait while walking up and downstairs
Dose: 200 mg
When noticed: unknown
Duration: unknown

Patient: Lefteris's wife
Improvements: slight improvements in all areas
Dose: 200 mg
When noticed: unknown
Duration: unknown

Patient: FightingAttorney10
Improvements: significant improvements in lungs and right side of body
Dose: 400 mg
When noticed: same day
Duration: unknown

This list is not fully up to date. Please correct any mistake above and/or add more data as needed. Also, let us know if you noticed improvements after receiving a different type of anesthetic such as sevoflurane, isoflurane, halothane, etc.



Best regards,
 
Looks like some ALS researchers are looking for ways to achieve temporary suppression of the immune system. Well isn't this what anesthesia does?

Certainly this is what anesthetics do.

Every ALS researcher worth his or her PhD should know that ALS is primarily an immune system disorder by now.

I think the problem with stem cells therapy for ALS is that researchers don't seem to understand what is wrong with an ALS patient's immune system. They think of it as either a lack or surplus of certain cytokines, granulocytes and monocytes. But that is not it.

They seem to have missed a series of studies that revealed that the immune cells of an ALS patient malfunction because they have defective GABA-A and glycine receptors. These receptors normally respond to GABA and glycine neurotransmitters to suppress activity in the cells. This is why injecting ALS patients with immunoglobulins is a waste of time. Supplementing them with GABA and glycine does not help all that much either.

The way to treat ALS is to find a way to restore the normal functionality of those immune cell receptors.
This is what Propofol and sevoflurane do.
But why does it have to be an anesthetic? It's because a non-sedative the same type of receptors are also used by the brain for motor neuron inhibition and sleep.


Regards,
 
I live in San Diego and will be having my first Propofol treatment at a medical clinic in Mexico.
Jerry, please keep us abreast of your results.

Thanks, John
 
Why Propofol works on lessening the ALS/MND symptoms?


Propofol works by potentiating inhibitory GABA and/or Glycine receptors in the brain and spinal cord. This, in essence, shuts the brain down. What is relevant to PALS about the anesthetic Propofol is that it modifies the receptors in the brain and the immune system by increasing their affinity for their endogenous neurotransmitters. This is the reason that every PALS who has reported benefits, has also reported that their improvements last weeks and even months.


Regards,
 
Perhaps a glimmer of hope that Mayo Clinic may conduct a trial? Hard to imagine "failure" to get positive results at this point!
 
Perhaps a glimmer of hope that Mayo Clinic may conduct a trial? Hard to imagine "failure" to get positive results at this point!

Let's pray and cross our fingers to see if it really happens and the results are encouraging for the PALS/CALS community.

Regards,
 
Apparently, ALS is caused by Neuroi-nflammation in areas of Motor Neurons loss and...this Neuroinflammation is addressed by anesthetics such as Propofol, the subject of this thread.

See below:



Innate immunity in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS)
Moisse K, Strong MJ.

Cell Biology Research Group, Robarts Research Institute, Department of Clinical Neurological Sciences, The University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.

Abstract

Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is a fatal neurodegenerative condition in which motor neurons are selectively targeted. Although the underlying cause remains unclear, evidence suggests a role for innate immunity in disease pathogenesis. Neuroinflammation in areas of motor neuron loss is evident in presymptomatic mouse models of ALS and in human patients. Efforts aimed at attenuating the inflammatory response in ALS animal models have delayed symptom onset and extended survival. Seemingly conversely, attempts to sensitize cells of the innate immune system and modulate their phenotype have also shown efficacy. Effectors of innate immunity in the CNS appear to have ambivalent potential to promote either repair or injury. Because ALS is a syndromic disease in which glutamate excitotoxicity, altered cytoskeletal protein metabolism, oxidative injury, mitochondrial dysfunction and neuroinflammation all contribute to motor neuron degeneration, targeting inflammation via modulation of microglial function therefore holds significant potential as one aspect of therapeutic intervention and could provide insight into the exclusive vulnerability of motor neurons.


Best regards,
 
The only reason that previous efforts at suppressing the innate inflammatory response in ALS patients have not been very successful is that researchers do NOT understand what causes the inflammation.

It is caused by defective glycine and GABA-A and receptors used by inflammatory monocytes.


Traditional anti-inflammatory drugs do NOT target those receptors. Propofol does.


Regards,
 
From ALS-TDI Forums:




Summary of the ALS/Anesthetics Hypothesis

Abstract:

This hypothesis is based on the finding that ALS is primarily an immune system disorder. Researchers have identified an elevated inflammatory response in ALS patients that is manifested during both pre-symptomatic and later stages of the disease. This inflammation is thought to be responsible for its rapid progression. Identifying the cause and nature of the inflammatory response is the key to formulating an effective therapy. Even though researchers have known about the innate immune response in ALS patients for more than a decade, attempts at using traditional anti-inflammatory drugs have not been very successful. The reason is that researchers have not yet identified the cause of the inflammation. There are many types of inflammations and many types of anti-inflammatory substances. By identifying the exact cause of ALS inflammation, we can formulate an effective therapy to eliminate it. We believe that eliminating the cause will not only stop progression, but will also bring the disease into full remission, short of regenerating dead motor neurons. We hypothesize that certain anesthetics such as propofol and sevoflurane can fully eliminate the cause of the inflammation.

The Cause of ALS Inflammation:

ALS inflammation is caused by a deficiency in certain neurotransmitter receptors, primarily the GABA-A alpha-1 and glycine alpha-1 receptors. A deficiency means that the receptors lack their normal affinity for their neurotransmitters and, as a result, fail to activate properly. These receptors are used extensively by the inhibitory neurons in the brain stem and spinal cord to control the activation of motor neurons. A deficiency causes an abnormal increase in the activity of the motor neurons and this, in turn, leads to a pathological condition known as neuronal excitotoxicity. But, and this is the crux of this argument, the same receptors are also used by immune system cells such as monocytes. If monocytic receptors are functioning normally, they respond to the normal level of neurotransmitters in the cerebrospinal fluid and this inhibits the activity of the monocytes. During an infection, messenger immune molecules are used to block the receptors. The ensuing decrease in inhibition activates the monocytes in order to fight the infection. However, if the receptors are deficient, the monocytes are no longer properly inhibited and the result is the chronic and destructive inflammatory response we observe in ALS patients.

The Therapy:

An effective ALS therapy must not only suppress ALS inflammation, it must also eliminate the cause. Doing so will kill two birds with one stone because it eliminates neuronal excitotoxicity as well. It just so happens that certain anesthetics, such as propofol and sevoflurane, can potentiate all the known deficient receptors in ALS patients. Potentiation is the key. It consists of increasing a receptor's affinity for its neurotransmitter, restoring it to its normal functioning level. But what sets these anesthetics apart is that the induced potentiation does not disappear after the drug is eliminated from the body. It can last for days and even weeks. Part of this hypothesis is that, by fully eliminating the chronic inflammatory response, the disease can be put into full remission.

Experimental Confirmation:

Although no official trials have been conducted to test this hypothesis, at least a dozen patients have reported significant and, at times, spectacular improvements in their symptoms after undergoing anesthesia with the anesthetics propofol and sevoflurane. Based on their reports, we can deduce a number of therapeutic principles. The optimum propofol dose seems to be about 800 mg. Anything below 200 mg does not seem to be very effective. We also have good reasons to believe that a mixture of propofol and sevoflurane is much more effective than propofol alone.



Regards,
 
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My fellow PALS.
Please, excise caution if you are going for Propofol treatment overseas (outside U.S.A.).

We already have reports coming in that they turning the "Only $1,500 a Propofol Treatment" to much much more than that when you arrive according to some PALS and a few other people who have gone to Mexico.

FACT: Many other country's hospitals and doctor's offices DO NOT use proper sterilization techniques on their instruments. FACT not something made up.
My point is you may just trade your ALS for an infection or Mad Cow Disease.

Propofol needs to be trialed in the USA properly for ALS using Fast Track which it was exactly what it was designed for in the first place (an already existing drug which is showing improvements in patients). Fast Track can approve a drug for another use if the trial shows efficacy in 1-2 years not 5-7. I know you will say that is too long, but we MUST trial this drug in the proper formalized way to determine if it going to have efficacy for some or all ALS patients and for how long.

I hate people are flocking to countries right away having Propofol infusions (hell you don't even know if you are getting real Propofol). It may be mixed with water or some other drug/solution to save money (you can laugh but this has happened countless times in other countries who have little or no regulation).

All I am saying is if patients are going broke getting Propofol infusions that ultimately will show no or not much improvements due to some shady fly by night operation setup probably in matter of days or weeks in some other country, it will only make the Propofol Fast Track Trial possibility in the USA less likely. I already told you that my Neuro informed me that MAYO is looking into doing Fast Track or some other quick trial as we speak.



MY ADVICE:

Stay home at the moment and schedule and endoscopy or colonoscopy if you want to trial Propofol yourself (simply tell them you have heartburn all the time or you saw blood in your stool a few times and have pain down there). They are both relatively safe procedures even in patients who are in advanced stages. You can then get the safe and proper care needed while testing Peopofol. You can easily explain to the anesthesiologist the situation and usually they have no problem using a dose you request as he or she has everything they need (mainly equipment but also their experience) in the event something would go wrong.

It's your choice, but you may be sorry by rushing to Mexico or other fly by night companies in other little regulated countries that start popping up everywhere.


Keep your eyes peeled and do NOT fall for scammers even when you are against time with this terrible ALS disease.

Take care, my fellow PALS.
 
Good advice Carlos!
 
Good advice Carlos!

Did you watch the NEALS Webinar w/ALSUntangled and their conclusions about Propofol.

That was to be expected coming from them. I wasn't surprised at all.
 
Did you watch the NEALS Webinar w/ALSUntangled and their conclusions about Propofol.

That was to be expected coming from them. I wasn't surprised at all.

I would have bet the farm they would respond as they did, no surprise at all Carlos...:neutral:
 
Great site. Very professional looking.
 
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