Problems with the Esophagus – Update

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Hello again,

My previous thread is here: Pain in the esophagus, lump in the throat

I hope you’ll allow me to share a small update, though unfortunately, things haven’t improved.
(I’m not sure if I can update this thread; I have no intention of breaking the rules, but my previous thread is closed. Please don’t ban me.)

The biggest issue I’m dealing with now is with my esophagus and throat. My earlier symptoms haven’t gone away; in fact, they’ve worsened. I feel significant discomfort while swallowing and even greater discomfort when lying down or trying to sleep. Often, it takes me hours to fall asleep. I particularly feel discomfort on the left side of my esophagus. When I swallow, I often feel clicking or shifting sensations in that area. When lying down, it feels like my esophagus is misaligned or hanging, and I feel pressure in that spot.

The side I lie on makes a difference: lying on my left side causes a strong pressure on the left side of the esophagus, while lying on my right side reduces the pressure. However, when swallowing saliva, I can hear and feel cartilage clicking or shifting.

My tongue also seems smaller (flatter) on the left side at rest compared to the right side (when extended or tensed, I don’t notice a difference). Additionally, the left side of my tongue feels stiffer. I constantly clear my throat and sometimes cough due to a sensation of something building up in my throat. (I have reflux, but I’m unsure if this is related.)

My palatine arches and uvula are noticeably lower than before (confirmed by an ENT specialist). The arches are more “hanging,” and my uvula is long, touching the back of my tongue, making breathing harder when lying down. Sometimes it feels like I can’t get enough air and need to take another breath, which usually helps. I haven’t noticed problems with speaking, and I can swallow relatively normally. Occasionally, I need to concentrate more or repeat the swallowing reflex for saliva, but I don’t have issues swallowing food or liquids. I’ve observed occasional fasciculations on my tongue (visible in the mirror but not felt).

Limbs - I haven’t noticed a loss of strength in recent months. However, over the past few years, my arms and legs have become very thin, and my joints are loose and often make cracking sounds. Recently, I’ve experienced migrating muscle pain and strange sensations, as if my muscles were being stretched or pulled, especially in my feet.

My left leg is the most problematic. For months, I’ve felt increasing discomfort in the lower part of my left calf and near the shinbone close to my foot. This discomfort includes pain, burning, and stinging, often triggered by exertion but also present at rest.

Since May 2024, I’ve had fasciculations all over my body (mainly in the calves). Initially, they were very frequent (every second), but now they occur a few times an hour in various places or sometimes disappear for several hours. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed that fasciculations now often occur after mild exertion or muscle movement. For example, when I tense my left bicep, it sometimes triggers temporary fasciculations in that muscle. This didn’t happen before.

My throat issues began in early September 2024. That same month, I underwent an EMG (results are in my previous post). I’ve seen several ENT specialists. They found nothing significant, just slight redness in the throat and epiglottis, likely due to reflux.

In less than two months, I have an appointment with the neurologist who conducted my EMG. They will likely recheck my reflexes and may schedule another EMG.

My Questions:
1. Could the symptoms I’ve described be the start of bulbar-onset ALS? I know it typically begins with speech and swallowing issues, but my symptoms seem somewhat different.
2. During my EMG, only my tongue (left side) was tested. The submental muscles and the sternocleidomastoid muscle were not tested. Can I trust the EMG from September and assume the bulbar region isn’t affected? If not, how else can bulbar-onset ALS be confirmed?
3. In the early stages of ALS, can muscle tension trigger fasciculations, or are fasciculations usually spontaneous and at rest?
4. I’m turning 40 in less than a month. How common is ALS at this age, and how often does bulbar-onset ALS occur in people this young?
 
1. Still doesn’t sound like als to me

2 that would seem plenty. Usually only one bulbar site is tested.

3 you can’t tell anything by twitching patterns. However mine happen and have always happened spontaneously

4 the most common age for ALS is in the mid fifties. Bulbar skews older. Is it impossible for a 39 yo to have bulbar als ? No. But to me your symptoms don’t sound like als
 
Thank you very much for your response. I will try other tests, such as an MRI of the neck, an esophageal X-ray with contrast, etc. Maybe the issue lies elsewhere—I hope so. I’m also not ruling out anxiety-related problems, but I honestly don’t feel like it’s scaring me that much, especially since my condition tends to worsen when I’m already feeling mentally fine. I’ve also seen specialists like a psychologist and a psychiatrist, and they didn’t find anything. I even took calming medications as a precaution, but it didn’t change anything.

I will keep you updated on any changes in my condition. Maybe my story and unusual symptoms will be helpful to someone.
 
I would like to ask one more thing that I mentioned above, I mean breathing. Sometimes (several times a day) I feel that I can't get enough air and I need to take another deep breath. I just sit and suddenly I feel like I'm running out of air and have to take a deep breath. Does this sound like the beginning of ALS, or is it a problem in ALS from the very beginning that we are unable to do deep breathing? It's possible that I'm subconsciously stressed and that's where this symptom is coming from, but I'd like to ask you guys if this is something I should be worried about and do additional tests?
 
That is not how respiratory impairment in ALS typically presents, no. GERD and the possible anatomical anomalies you mentioned are much more likely contributors. But equally, a lot of people, including me, periodically feel like a deep breath is warranted. Stress, running around to get things done, wandering attention, etc. and exertion such as climbing a hill or just being on the go for a more sustained period than usual can all be factors.
 
It's been exactly six months since my first throat/esophagus symptoms, so I'd like to add a small summary focusing solely on this symptom. Six months ago it started with a slight discomfort when swallowing, as if something was stuck in my throat and I could feel it while swallowing. Then after a few days I felt a huge pressure and pain in that area, especially when lying down. After a few days the pain disappeared and did not return. All these months, I feel a systematic worsening of the symptoms in this area all the time.
As of today, the biggest problem I have is with my hyoid bone, when swallowing it jumps quite a bit on the left side of my neck (worst when lying down). On top of all this, for some time I have also had a problem with my jaw (also on the left side), when opening my mouth wider it shoots slightly at my left ear, in addition, the movement of the jaw is abnormal, its track when closing turns sharply to the left just before closing my mouth, I can't close my mouth properly straight.
I clench my teeth very often (I don't know if I do at night too), the dentist said that teeth are pretty much worn down. I've been doing this for a very long time now, so it's strange that only now would something go wrong in the jaw well and strange that the hyoid bone is also working badly.

I had an EMG (including tongue) six months ago and it was clean.

Muscle complaints and fasciculations are still present, but I don't react to it anymore and I don't look for more symptoms, the biggest problem is what I described above.

I have my appointment with the neurologist in exactly 2 weeks. I will come back here when I know something more.
 
Did the dentist suggest a bite guard?
 
No, the dentist didn't say anything about it, but I have another appointment in a month then I'll ask.
For the time being, I am trying to exercise and stretch those muscles in the area of the jaw joint and also the hyoid bone. It is not easy for me, I feel that my sleep has also deteriorated a lot, I wake up and feel that I am not breathing properly, I have to change my sleep position often. I'm not giving up, I'm also trying not to think anymore that this could be some kind of beginning of ALS, and I'm looking for more likely solutions, although the fear is definitely still in me.
 
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