Eric Edney and Even Better Now - Don't Be Fooled By This Scam

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Al,

I re-read my post and I don't see anywhere that I made the claim that online ads (as "cures" for PALS) were a good option. Please read it again. I'm convinced that most of you don't know any more about holistic medicine than I do, but you state things as if yours is the final word. Just as there is no proof that detoxifying works, I've seen no proof that it doesn't. Everyone is worried only about money. Is it possible that ALS researchers don't see any opportunities for BIG profits from finding a cure and so they aren't trying very hard? My gawd, 5000 new cases a year, where's the chance for making money from that few people? In fact, I'd say that's a fairly safe argument that these supposed scammers aren't exactly getting rich either.

I want to make clear that my wife and I did not hear about Eric Edney or Hal Huggins from any website. My wife's cousin, who is an opthamologist, contacted us after he heard of my wife's diagnosed. He suffered a heart attack and two bypass surgeries and turned to holistic healing because he didn't feel that his doctor's were interested in preventing him from becoming sick, only in treating his illness.

Gawd, how cynical is that? No MD is going to make any MONEY if we aren't sick. They don't give a whit about good health -- only sickness.

Hal Huggins was a licensed Doctor of Dentistry. I say "was" because his license was taken away because he refused to toe the ADA line. The ADA refuses to let dentists remove amalgams for ANY reasons other than cosmetic. Insurance companies will NOT pay claims for amalgam removal for medical reasons. But, they will for cosmetic reasons. What does that tell you about GREED? They stand to LOSE billions if they ever admit that putting mercury in your mouth is dangerous. BTW, just because dentists (and MD's) don't advertise on the web does not mean they're legitimate.

Drug company's are making BILLIONS advertising erectile dysfuntion meds everywhere....on the web, in every magazine you buy, on TV....over and over and over. You ever used Viagra? Or Cialas?

Finally, I don't understand how anyone would endorse DavidGL's rant claiming Eric should "give away" his book. Jeesh, talk about ridiculous. Let's face it....money makes the world go round. Eric isn't giving anything away, and neither would DavidGL, nor any MD that I know of. Our first neuro's shoes cost more than my entire wardrobe.

-Joel
 
Joel. I will agree that most of us don't know much about holistic medicine and I will defer to you knowing more about it than I do. There are people that know a lot more about traditional medicine than I do. I did not want to get into a lengthy dissertation about the merits of each but I will agree there is room for improvement in both areas. Nobody is going to give anything away for nothing and to ask is unrealistic. Charging the prices they charge for these supplements is terrible as is the price for mainstream drugs. You said that money is not a concern for you. That's great for you that you can spend endless amounts of money chasing what may or may not be a dream but what about the single mom with 3 kids with ALS that can't afford that? At least she can get medicare. Maybe it's not fair that they won't pay for supplements but until they get lobbyists and show real results then they will be labelled as to what they are. It's not all our fault or the big drug companies as they like to say. They're making big bucks and not putting anything into it other than pyramid sales and fancy websites. Just my opinion. Different people have different opinions. Thank God we live in countries where we can express them without fear of persecution.
AL.
 
I believe David made some very good points. Apheditor, I do not feel comfortable with your accusations of "ranting". I would like to hear your opinions, and I agree with some of them, without hearing put downs of other people here. We all come here for a place to express ourselves, and to hear what other people think in an open exchange.
It is my belief that there are in fact people who give to the world without direct monetary gain, even people in the medical field. When I had a back injury, I got exercises that helped me tremendously from a physical therapist who posted all his exercises for my specific problem and even gave instructions on how to do them correctly through a forum similar to this one. He never asked me for a cent, and I attribute my recovery to his help.
Al, you are a fabulous moderator, and I deeply appreciate all the time and effort you put in to make this forum helpful to so many people. I f you feel this post is not appropriate for any reason, please take it out or edit it. I am going to visit my mom tomorrow and won't be around for a few days. Thank you.
 
Thanks for the vote of support and as my dear departed mother used to say. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
AL.
 
joel you are very angry that your wife is sick and i dont blame you. but we are all looking for the magic cure and some of us have been taken by scam I included and we try to help others from future scams. I have als since 99 and my husband wants me to go to china for a cure Italy for a cure,but i think with my head not my heart as he does and I need facts and I havent seen anything promising yet.and rest asure if ther is one I will share it with the world Pat
 
No money

Al, you hit the nail on the head. I happen to be a single mother with 3 kids. I quit my mediocre job and spent our savings to go back to college, not only to better myself, but so my kids could have more. No just more belongings, but more from life. I wanted to take them places, live in a better part of town, educate them. I am sometimes hurt, sometimes jealous (I know that is a very bad emotion and I feel guilty for having it) when I read and hear of others who have treatment and equipment that I know I will never have.

It's funny, when I was crying the other day I said if I were wealthy I would be diagnosed by now. I guess I am trying to say that it would be nice if we all could just pay to try all the different options, seeing as they couldn't cause further harm. The first thing I would do with the money, seeing as my kids had all they needed, is tests that my doctor won't order, like metals, etc. I wouldn't head right to the cure all's.

Anyway, Al I also think you are a wonderful moderator and adviser. You are truly a successful, caring individual and the world is lucky to have you. Many people just think poor, single mothers put themselves there and "oh well", but you understand we are all people with the same emotions and needs. Thanks. Leslie
 
I think we've gone off the rails here a bit. The idea really is to keep abreast of alternatives, ask around before trying anything, RESEARCH, USE COMMON SENSE and LOGIC - then, make your choice INTELLIGENTLY...

Money/greed/profit have always been around and there will always be some who get caught or burnt. It is up to the individual to choose. With all the warnings about Chinese stem cell operations, there are still PALS who go to China. You cannot prevent anyone from doing what it is THEY WANT to do fo their health. No amount of editing/deleting urls will stop anyone who is determined. IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

Let's keep a broad open perspective on things and before dismissing them, it might be a good idea to assess their value and safety, discuss them, etc... so that everyone benefits.:-|
 
I think this is rapidly becoming a dead subject. If anyone cares to do a search these forums have been going since 2003 and there are a lot of posts about Edney,mostly negative. I have been around since then but not posting until 2004. I have been a member of the forum and have done a lot of other research and have read every single post on this forum since becoming a member. I didn't say Edney is a scammer without having a bit of knowledge to back it up. Let's just say that David the Administrator and I have our ideas about what is right and wrong and over the last few years we have seen some things that are just plain wrong and if we can protect someone from being taken advantage of by taking out a url well then we will. If someone wants to go somewhere else and be taken advantage of I have no control over it but here I do. We have over 1600 members and 99.9% are happy so that's the way it shall stay.
AL.
 
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Way to go Al, I have only been a member for a short while. but I find you to be a common sense person with much research info. I trust your instincts completely. EM
 
Good point, Al. If we want to go to the other sites and look for alternative therapies then we're free to do so. If anyone becomes cured from an alternate therapy then they can come back and say "I told you so." By the way, I use some herbal therapies myself for things like hot flashes and joint aches so I'm not completely in the traditional camp.
 
I know we are flogging a dead horse here – but here are my 2 cents:

In addition to Eric’s recommendation of a number of dubious treatments and products, one of the things that causes me the greatest alarm is that he omits any reference to a number of long time ALS survivors who have not bought into this whole detox theory (some of whom are members here).

It astounds me that Eric makes no mention of Stephen Hawking – probably the most famous surviving PALS. Stephen has had ALS far longer than Eric has – but no mention is made of him. Is it perhaps because Hawking does not subscribe to any of this detox stuff and does not help the sale of alternative therapies?

Clearly the rate of progression among PALS is not consistent. Some PALS progress very rapidly while others much more slowly; however, Eric does not delve into this at all – which I believe totally undermines his credibility.

Isn't Eric just a slow progressor?

Eric often mentions occasional relapses – which he ascribes to new toxins in his environment – or unidentified toxins still to be eliminated. Aren’t these relapses simply the ordinary progression of his ALS and that nothing he is doing is really making any difference (except helping to defraud other PALS out of their money)?
 
i just joined a few minutes ago and want to say thanks! i visited a friend of mine today that i had not seen for 6 months or more and learned that he was diagnosed in nov. 06 with als. he is progressing at a very rapid rate. he is wheelchair bound, and can not speak already, that is only 4 months! i have found this to be a very hard day, i was shocked at how emotionally beat up i am. he is less than 40, married, 2 young kids, last i saw him he was going bike riding with the family.
i came home tonight and sat at the computer with the hopes of learning about his disease and found the story of eric, i was encouraged ( just what they want!) i even thought about ordering his book.
i am going to try and collect enough $ to send him and his family to disney land while he can still run his chair and type on his computer about the fun and rides his kids are having with mom and dad. money better spent than on erics book or products! cam
 
I totally support David and AL's attitude about this site and it's purpose. Great job guys. I know you have to deal with all different kinds of "attitudes" every day and I also know it can take a lot out of you. God bless you both for the helpful service and guidance you are providing.

I totally agree with Cambo. I would much rather spend what little bit of money I have enjoying the time I have left with my family, instead of chasing rainbows, and you know I love rainbows.

I will never use a product without intense investigation on the internet. I made a serious mistake about a suppose to be air cleaner product awhile back because a "friend" was selling the product. I used it for a period of maybe 4 months when I was put in the hospital for 9 days due to serious breathing and lung problems. After returning home I went on the internet to a neutral site about allergies and air cleaners and found out this machine was putting ozone into my house at 50 times the allowable limits for an ozone alert for the community.

I was poisoning myself with Ozone, just because I accepted something as fact because it was from a trusted friend, without checking out the item myself. The website I went to listed ozone as a potential poison and warned people about air cleaners emitting this element as dangerous to your health.

We can learn from others mistakes and their lost money for nothing in return, or we can learn the hard way. Your choice to make, it does not matter to me which way you choose. Best of luck to you either way.

By the way, a definition of "faith" is believing in something you cannot see? What do you have "Faith" in? Maybe a better word would be confidence?

God Bless
Capt AL
 
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Welcome Cambo. People with ALS or any disease need friends like you. Your friend is lucky.
AL.
 
This forum has become such an important place of support for me that I feel it necessary to come back on and respond to the above, just to say that I'm not one of "those people" referred to in the above comments. I would shudder to think that people here would stop resonding to me and interacting with me because they thought I just came here to build up some "points" so I could then shill for some product or other.

For the record, if you look back, my comment about clay baths was partof a much longer post I made in response to a request another forum member made about what I was doing. That post contained the caveat that I had no idea if any of these things were actually helping me and that I was not recommending them for anybody else; simply that these seemed to be the things that made the most sense to me to try.

And that, I hope, will be the end of this discussion for me:)
I found this thread while doing a search for researched evidence of fake testimonials. My brother is an undiagnosed hypochondriac(what is referred to sometimes as "medical student syndrome"), and constantly sends me links for various "alternative remedies" to imaginary ailments and deficiencies. I argue the honesty of these sites, and he refers to the "testimonials". Of course, I told him I could make a thousand testimonials every day and sign them "John G. from Fort Lee" or whatever, and it would not make the testimonial any more true. His response, like that of "ladyave", is that some of these are generic testimonials, in that one could go and buy a clay foot bath or a bottle of hawthorn berry capsules from any other source. Not realizing, of course, that it makes no difference since if you are inclined to believe these fake testimonials anyhow, you will purchase it from somewhere, and everyone in the business benefits. People need to educate themselves on the value of these anonymous testimonials(zero), and stop throwing their money away to charlatans who are simply and ruthlessly exploiting people in need of hope.
 
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