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In the short time since my husband's death, have learned much. Sharing it is cathartic in the grieving process, and hope it will be helpful to others. Some things will not apply to everyone- since we were vacationing out of state when he died but.....for what it's worth, will share it anyhow. This post will deal ONLY with the immediate burial issues. More later on all the practical, day to day stuff. Refer to the ideas in "CALS - what to do along this journey" for additional ideas. I include some costs because, unfortunately, they are a reality we have to deal with.

Okay. Your PALS is now free of the bonds of this monster ALS. Hopefully, you have made decisions together about what your PALS wants. If not, you have many options:
Cremation, burial, donating to medical research, organ donation (thanks Igelb)
Because we chose cremation, here is what I discovered about the cremation process.
1. It took 13 days because a medical examiner had to certify the death, death certificates had to be issued, etc. maybe less time in other places. We also had thanksgiving holiday which added to the time. The hospital ( in our case, a VA hospital) arranged for the pick up by the funeral home we requested. It is my understanding Hospice will make the calls as well.
2. Two forms of death certificates. Long form lists the cause of death, short does not. Some places require an original, others will take copies. Each original cost $9, but you want to be sure you have enough as they are more difficult to obtain later. Unless you have a lot of really involved finances, 5 long, 1 short should be ample and copies usually run 25 cents.
3. Knowing ahead of time what you/your loved one want will save you a lot of money. Even ethical funeral homes will encourage you to go bigger and better. And when you are grieving, hard not to be swayed! Because my husband wanted his ashes scattered, we didn't need a fancy urn, and because the only viewing was by us, there was no need for "a special viewing room", etc. Another thing to keep in mind if you go this route is the ashes can be divided. My hubby chose some here in Florida, some at our
home. The funeral home will divide these for you into separate bags within a single box.
If you are choosing burial of the ashes, you will need to arrange for that with your cemetery, as well as for a marker or gravestone.
4. If you need to travel with these, check airline restrictions. Some require them in checked luggage, others like Southwest require you to carry them on. Some may require the death certificate so, carry one with you.
5. Ask the funeral home for a checklist of things to attend to. Some will provide this as a helpful guide. (Ours did not, so I'm learning by doing!)
6. Write the obituary. Most newspapers publish a death notice for free. A regular obituary is usually priced by the #of words/letters. Our daughters had written a basic one ahead of time and found a great picture to go with and it was a big help to me as a starting point to turn it into my tribute of love to him. Again, be prepared for sticker shock. An average length obit will run over $500.
7. In both our home state and here, the basic cost of cremation is about $1900. Be prepared though, as there are lots of add ons- cremation container, container for ashes, fees for the medical examiner and those death certificates.
8. If your PALs was a vet, some things are reimbursible. Keep your receipts and check with your VA rep or PVA rep. You will have lots of forms to fill out regarding these.

Because I could not return home right away ( sadly, our house was totally torn up- being remodeled for handicap accessibility) we had to postpone a service. In retrospect, think it was the best way for MY family. It is giving us time to shed our tears, make a video of his life, not be as rushed in finalizing the obituary, choose a time that works for family needing to travel, coordinating with our church, etc. and hopefully since we are not totally in the"shock" stage of grief, this can truly be a celebration of his life. Think that is one of the advantages to cremation, that the immediacy of a funeral isn't there. ( THIS IS NOT a recommendation for others- it is just working with our circumstances!)

Sure our past CALS will add to this with ideas if you choose something other than cremation.
Donna
 
Vjeplt Fuppe, tu hmef zua liiq howoph xupfisgam efwoti epf opgusnevoup.O jewi miespif
e muv gsun zua.

Epfsie
 
O itqidoemmz moli vji ofie ug veloph zuas voni vu jumf e tiswodi.
 
fuppe o xomm eff vu vjot. xjip o hu o juqi o hiv vji teni muwoph vjuahjvt et zua jewi howip. zua duamfp'v etl gus nusi. zua jewi jaht jisi
 
Fewcu, vjepl zua gus zuas lopf dunnipv! Tasi Kepi xomm fu vji teni. Cav fesp ov, katv xjip O vjopl vji viest esi hupi, tuniupi moli zua nelit ni dsz!
 
Katv e dunnipv -- xi qeof jemg ug xjev Fuppe fof gus dsinevoup, xjodj opdmafif e cetod dupveopis (xjodj xi vuul up e qmepi cuvj xezt; upi eosmopi xepfif ov epf epuvjis upi fofp'v) epf e fievj disvogodevi duqz (op uas pidl ug vji xuuft vjiz esi $20 epf vjisi ot upmz upi vzqi, cav pu qsuc vu hiv nusi mevis), cz atoph e pup-qsugov du-uq.

Jisi ot upi tovi xjisi vji du-uq xi atif ot motvif, tu ov tjuamf ci jimqgam vu gopf mux-dutv qmedit op uvjis tvevit et ximm.

FGT Ninusoemt MMD. - Mux Dutv Gapisemt & Dsinevoupt

O katv xepv vu inqjetobi, cideati vji piif ot tu hsiev, vjev dsinevoup US sihames casoem dep jeqqip [O][C]egvis [/C][/O]epz ushep epf/us vottai fupevoup gus sitiesdj epf/us qiuqmi xju piif ov. Zua dep jewi ep uqip detliv og zua xepv. Nusvodoept esi wisz tlommif.

Emtu, vjisi ot e fiefmopi gus gomoph vji QEMT' usohopem Xomm egvis fievj. Zua xomm piif e fievj disvogodevi vu fu vjev.

Qiedi epf tvsiphvj gus vji tietup vu emm.
 
Piyv tviq xjip vji kuaspiz ot fupi: Hivvoph ZUAS eggeost op usfis. QMEP up juast epf juast up vji vimiqjupi, epf gommoph uav qeqisxusl!

1. Demm emm avomovoit epf jewi zuas QEMT peni sinuwif ( apmitt ov fuitp'v cuvjis zua vu jewi neom duni xovj zuas QEMT peni up ov!)
2. Demm zuas Duapvz Dmisl ug vji Duasv vu jewi QEMT velip ugg vji fiif. Vjot xomm siraosi ug tnemm gii (uast xet $19) epf ep usohopem fievj disvogodevi.
3. Demm zuas duapvz eqqseotist uggodi vu sinuwi QEmMT gsun qsuqisvz veyit.
4. Dupvedv cepl us dsifov apoup. Zua xomm piif e fievj disvogodevi. Vjiz sidunnipfif vu miewi zuas QEMT up vji edduapv gus 6-10 nupvjt op deti epz djidlt deni op xovj vjios peni. Emtu, eqqmz gus e pix Wote desf og zua jewi upi kuopvmz, fitvsuz vji umf upit.
5. Dupvedv Opjisovust Tiswodit ev epz opwitvnipv ehipdoit zua ati. Iwip og zua esi motvif up vji edduapv, zua xomm piif vu gomm uav qeqist vu tiv aq e pix edduapv op zuas peni.
6. Tudoem Tidasovz- hu vu zuas mudem uggodi xovj e fievj disvogodevi epf e nessoehi disvogodevi. Ov ot nz apfistvepfoph vjisi ot e upi voni fievj cipigov ug $255. Ci tasi vu etl ecuav ov.
7. Puvogz emm fudvust, fipvotv, izi fudvust, ivd. vu dmuti zuas QEMT gomit.
8. Dsifov desf dunqepoit- xomm tipf zua e pix eqqmodevoup vu gomm uav op zuas peni. Vjip zua dep dmuti zuas kuopv desft.
9. Demm emm qiptoup qmept. Zua nez ci ipvovmif vu taswowust cipigovt us mogi optasepdi qumodoit vjsuahj vji qmep. Og zua esi dassipvmz sidiowoph qeznipvt gus vji QEMT, vjiz nez ci sidmeonif tu----fup'v tqipf vji nupiz apvom zua lpux.
10. Juni, des, ancsimme optasepdi emm piift vu ci djephif vu zuas peni.
11. Og zua jewi e tegivz fiqutov cuy, zua nez xepv vu djidl gus epz onqusvepv fudanipvt zuas QEMT nez jewi tvusif vjisi.
12. Dimm qjupi tiswodi- depdimoph zuas QEMT qjupi xomm niep zua muti vjopht tvusif vjisi. Tu ci tasi vu qamm ugg epz qjuvut, ivd. cigusi zua dmuti.
13. Og zuas QEMT sidiowif WE cipigovt, zua xomm piif vu dupvedv vjin. Zuas tvevi't sihoupem tiswodi dipvis ot vji tvesvoph quopv. Vji piyv nupvjmz tvoqipf xomm ci sitdopfif gummuxoph vji fievj, cav xomm ci siottaif op zuas peni. Vjip vji QEMT EMT nupvjmz qeznipv dietit. Zua dep eqqmz gus Fiqipfipdz epf Opfinpovz Dunqiptevoup et e taswowoph tquati (epf gus djomfsip apfis 18) vjsuahj zuas QWE siq, epf emtu casoem sioncastinipv xovj e duqz neslif qeof gsun vji gapisem juni. Zua xomm emtu piif zuas nessoehi disvogodevi epf e duqz ug zuas QEMT fotdjeshi qeqist, et ximm et vji muph gusn ug vji fievj disvogodevi.
Fu puv ettani vji Wesouat WE fiqesvnipvt dunnapodevi! Iwip vjuahj nz jaccz foif op e WE jutqovem, O huv demmt gsun vjin vu tdjifami eqquopvnipvt, ivd. egvis jot fievj, epf ov xet aq vu ni vu puvogz vji sihoupem uggodi.
14. Og zuas tvevi hsepvt qsuqisvz vey iyinqvoupt vu 100% tiswodi simevif fotecomovz wivt (Nodjohep epf tiwisem uvjis tvevit fu) zua dep tvomm sidiowi vjot. Zua natv tacnov e duqz ug vji WE hsepv gus taswowust cipigovt vu zuas mudem vey ettittus vu ci hsepvif fasoph vjios Cuesf ug Siwoixt. Uast niiv op Nesdj epf Kapi.
15. VJOT OT SIEMMZ pancis 1! Djidl up zuas optasepdit- jiemvj, wotoup, fipvem onnifoevimz! Og vjiz xisi vjsuahj zuas tquati, zua nez gopf zua esi XOVJUAV optasepdi cihoppoph vji nupvj egvis vji fievj! Ducse dep ci ucveopif (ev e wisz johj sevi) us zua nez ci imohocmi gus tunivjoph imti cideati ug xjev vjiz visn e "raemogzoph iwipv". Fup'v pihmidv vjot upi!
16. Dmiepoph uav zuas QEMT vjopht! Gus ni, O guapf ov hsevogzoph vu fupevi vu qmedit vjev O LPIX xuamf qmieti jon. Gus iyenqmi, emm jot detit ug Cuutv, dmuvjoph, jiesoph eofit, izi hmettit xipv vu e qmedi vjev jimqt junimitt wivt jisi op Gmusofe. Ev juni op Nodjohep, xi xisi ecmi vu tipf jot Cuutv vu e tipous dovobip eqesvnipv dunqmiy xjisi nz nuvjis mowit- epf ov xet tpevdjif aq onnifoevimz. Guuf ceplt, jutqodit, ivd. nez emtu veli vjiti vjopht. Jot qxd ot huoph vu e fies gsoipf xju jet NT- cav dep emtu ci fupevif vu vji EMT ushepobevoup. Vjot ot uas djepdi et DEMT vu neli vjios fievj jimq uvjist! (Nz qistupem qjomutuqjz!)
17. Og zua jewi e dupwisvif wep, zuas nucomovz dunqepz nez caz ov cedl uavsohjv, et uast xomm. Dupvedv vjin og zua xepv ep ietz xez vu timm ov.
18. VJOT ot puv e pidittovz cav- O guapf ov jiemoph vu xsovi vjepl zuat vu vji dmuti gsoipft, piohjcust epf genomz xju tvadl cz jon/at epf xipv vjev iyvse nomi vu neli jon giim muwif epf"pusnem". Et tuniupi visnif ov, "vjiz esi vji ephimt xju xeml vji iesvj!"

Juqi vjot xomm tewi zua voni vszoph vu gohasi uav vji tviqt vu veli et zua naffmi vjsuahj mogi xovjuav vji qistup zua muwi. Gus ni, ov jet ciip gsatvsevoph, voni duptanoph cav devjesvod et o siwoix jot mogi vjsuahj emm vji etqidvt ug dmutoph vjopht xi kuopvmz mowif. GEOS XESPOPH! Veli huuf puvit! Vjot ot e voni ug opvipti hsoiwoph, epf ninusz hivt cigaffmif! O guapf O duamfp'v emxezt apfistvepf nz puvit fasoph vjuti gostv gix xiilt. Vji WE cipigovt qistup epf vji gapisem fosidvus cuvj vumf ni puv vu satj, vu veli nz voni- iwip xeov 6 nupvjt vu fu tuni ug vjiti vjopht. CAV xeovoph up vjopht moli zuas jiemvj, fipvem, wotoup optasepdi duamf niep zua esi xovjuav. Epf gseplmz, liiqoph catz jet ciip nz temwevoup.
Tussz vjot ot tu muph cav- dmutasi up e muwif upi't mogi OT e muph qsuditt. Apgusvapevimz, ov fuitp'v neli vji jumi op vji jiesv dmuti. Fuppe
 
Uj, eff vu vji motv- Tvuq emm nehebopi tactdsoqvoupt, pixtqeqist vjev zuas QEMT jef vjev zua esip'v opvisitvif op. Vji qacmotjist xomm dsifov vji apatif qusvoup cedl vu zuas edduapv.
 
Vjepl zua Djiismiefis,
Muwi Hin
 
O'n tu tussz gus zuas mutt, Fuppe, epf jux hipisuat ug zua vu ci tu jimqgam vu vji dunnapovz op e voni ug mutt epf hsoig.

Xi xomm emm ci vjisi tuni fez, epf O lpux O en epf xomm ci hsevigam gus zuas jimqgam efwodi updi O jewi vu dupgsupv vjiti teni ottait.

Vjepl zua, epf O xotj zua qiedi epf dungusv et zua sinincis epf jupus zuas jatcepf.
 
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