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Two words: FALSE HOPE. Al and TR would have a thing or two to say. I recall somebody accusing folk on the forum for being 'negative' about so called alternative treatments. Their PAL was dead within 6 months despite following some complex regiment or other. They never accepted there was no cure. Desperate situation, and in terms of cure ALS is desperate, calls for desperate measures. Each to their own.
 
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Here's the thing--people (some in good faith and some scammers) will offer and claim cures to the desperate. If you are newly diagnosed you think those of us that have been here a while are negative about alternative treatment and have just given up. that is not true!we are negative because we-or our pals--or our friends here--or someone in an outside support group has been there and done that and unfortunately nothing works. I hope and pray every day that a cure is found, and I hope it is something simple and silly.

My husband--after his diagnosis--went to Dr. Martz and did the Lyme treatment for a year. $20,000 later he was a hell of a lot weaker. then we spent about $2000 on piles of vitamins to cure Lyme. Then we spent several thousand more on a natural med. alternative doctor. weekly visits with intreveneous vitamins and flushing crap to "clean" him out, more piles of vitamins and homeopathic meds, hyperbaric chamber, then we spent several thousand more on some "doctor" who had himm breathing in rose oil and other essential oils. I dont want to forget the accupunture or body talk therapy or the special teas and drinks and diets or the best--the medical psychic who told us he would be the first person ever cure of ALS (sorry everybody else).

He has not given up--he has just made peace with ALS. he accepts what it is, and tries to live his life to the fullest. Nothing he did changed his progression. Some are just fast progressing and some are slow, I dontunderstand why but that is how it is.

If new members want to try all kinds of things and alternative meds that is fine, but don't lecture old member or think you are inventing the wheel and look down on us. we say it is false hope because we know.
 
Very good explanation Barbie.
 
Maybe your doctor is motivated by money; mine surely is not.

There are good people in the world. Not all people -- I am not naive. But, there really are people doing the best they can to be better people and to help make the world a better place.

I don't mean like leprechauns and unicorns.

My neurologist. My dentist. The nurses from hospice. My friends who have wiped my butt. Stu. David... Beth. Annie. Al. TR...
 
I read with interest your story of your husband being treated for Lyme with Dr. Martz. My 41 year old son was diagnosed with ALS in June but also was tested positive for Lyme. We have tryed to pursue the possible Lyme/ALS connection but have come to a halt. He was on an iv antibiotic for 10 weeks with no effect and went to a Lyme specialist/neurologist who felt he had 2 separate diseases, ALS & Lyme, but were not connected and would be a waste of money to continue any more antibiotic treatment. We have had two other second opinions. We were aware of Dr. Martz, who has since retired, but cannot find any more information on him. He was suppose to be publishing research articles but have not found anything. I would really like to know his success rate with ALS patients and if he has published any results. I have to admit we have had a hard time letting go of the possible lyme connection as it seems too much of a coincidence my son's ALS symptons would appear the same time as being diagnosed with Lyme. On the other hand, I question the legitimacy of some of the lyme doctors' opinions and their long term treatment approach with possible ALS patients. If you, or anyone has any info on Dr. Martz's whereabouts and any info he has published I would be very interested. Thanks for sharing your story.
 
I'd be very cautious of the lyme literate doctors out there. Look at Barbie's husband. 20k on antibiotics. When you take them and don't need them, your system can and will become resistant to those meds. It can be a serious risk for those with ALS--as they get frequent respiratory infections.
 
will graciously accept your barbs and go in the cornor and lick my wounds. however i will continue to spend $75 per month on vit c, beta caratone (recommended by neuro at als clinic), creatine, co-q10, supplement for cell health, powdered protein and carbohydrates. in my second drug trial 8 months of 12 month trial, last years trial was sucessful but still not approved by fda. when this trial is over will immediately enroll in another trial. of course there is nothing you can do to slow progression, its all in the luck of the draw.
 
Pearshoot,
I don't want you to feel attacked...I hope very much it works for you. If you feel it is helping and money well spent then it is. Vitamins sure cant hurt and drug trials are a great thing! I was just relaying the many alternatives that we tried and the fact that we believe they were scams.
 
heres the warning, if any herbalist, holistic doctor says they can cure ________ fill in the blank, nail your wallet shut and run as fast as possible. our local herbalist states, i can cure nothing, just make your body as healthy as possible so it can do a better job fighting whats going on inside. remember a healthy body is the only thing going for us, every small problem can increase progression.
 
Here is another warning, if any "doctor" says they can help slow progression of ALS, shut your wallet and run as far as you can. If you want to easy your mind, that you are doing everything within reason as far as supplements go then by all means go for it, I do, but don't delude yourself into thinking that you are following some proven treatment that will slow progression and for goodness sake don't say so here. It's nothing short of cruel.
 
Excellent advice from Pearshoot and Kiwi!
 
accepted that you cannot slow progression. our support group is small, since joining in mar 2010, 10 have died, 9 of them diagnosed after me. know 3 others that never attend support group meetings diagnosed after me and much worse shape. what type of conclusion should i draw from this? if you were doing something you thought was helping and witnessed this same thing what would be your conclusion?
 
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