Joel, it took my every time I came on to figure out how to get your visitor message. I finally clicked on visitor instead of private message. I am so dumb! Now, I will be dumber because I don't know how to start a thread. AL put one one for me, I think. I only know how to post a message after others, and to click on pages 1-5 of the topics to read. I hate to admit, what is this page for and who are these 5 friends listed over on the right that I don't think I've ever talked to? I am still lost. But so enjoying the forum anyway. God bless you and your wife too! marjorie