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There are times when I wonder if God hates me.

I hate the saying that God only gives us what we can handle. In my darkest moments I think...if that's true, then God made His first mistake because I CAN'T HANDLE THIS!

And then, I realize just how true that is. We aren't meant to handle these things. That's when we have to (yes, HAVE to for our own sanity) cry out to God and say...I can't handle this....You handle it. I'm giving it to You, God.

It is so true that when it rains it pours. I used to think life was a roller coaster, but now, I think it's like two roller coasters side by side. (Rick Warren said this.) One roller coaster is the positive things and one is the negative. They are always both running at the same time. Some times one is hitting a valley and the other is hitting a peak of a hill, but there is always negative and positive going at the same time. But, I think when the negative hits and hits and hits...we begin to think we'll never be able to get up...to make it.

God doesn't hate you or me. This world is so very far from perfect. It is a defective, fallen, sinful world. Bad things happen all of the time. And, unfortunately, those of us on this forum know this better than anyone ever should. But, God doesn't hate you. In fact, He provided us a way out. He provided us hope. He sent His only son to die in our place. Jesus paid the price for our sins. All we have to do is accept that gift. Then, when this imperfect, sometimes very crappy world is done with us, we will be in the presence of our Savior. We will have no more grief, no more pain, no more ALS.

What God did became so real to me almost exactly 10 years ago. My husband and I had trouble getting pregnant. After 5 years of surgeries, and specialists, and a miscarriage, and fertility treatments, we got pregnant with Joshua. But then there were pregnancy problems and he was born premature. He fought hard for 7 months. He ended up needing a trach and a ventilator. His last few days, we were so desperate. We were asking about a lung transplant...could I give him one of my lungs? They said, "No, that isn't possible and it wouldn't work anyway." I would have given him both of my lungs....my life...if it would have given him a chance.

But, I wouldn't have given Joshua's life to save anyone else. I wouldn't have allowed him to be placed in a stinky feeding trough the day he was born, surrounded by barn animals, surrounded by manure, with only rags for clothes. I wouldn't have allowed him to be humiliated, tortured, whipped just up to the point of death..., mocked, and then killed in the most gruesome method that man could think up at the time. But God allowed his only son to go through all of that....for you. Definately not because he hates you.....but because He Loves You.

I know what it is like to be in the valley of the shadow of death. Within a time span of 10 years, I have miscarried twins, had my house robbed, almost died with pregnancy complications, held my only son in my arms as he died, both my beloved grandparents died, I watched my dad die of cancer, my mother-in-law died suddenly and unexpectantly, my father-in-law died of cancer, my husband's aunt (who was like a mom to him) died suddenly, my husband lost his job, we lost our house, had to declare bankruptcy, and then, the most devastating...ALS took my husband 7 months and 9 days ago.

And this is the verse that has helped me and my husband through all of this. The heading of this section is, "The Disciple's Grief Will Turn to Joy". It's in John 16:33, "In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." This world is not all there is. There is hope beyond the saddness and beyond the grief. There is hope.
 
You have to realize though, it can't get any worse, it can only get better. Hang in there. Go for a walk, the sun is shining, the birds are singing and you are alive.
Colleen
 
I guess I prompted this thread. My first thought being the smart @ss that I am is wow, God hates you more than he does me. I'm sorry for all you have been through. I can match you pretty close story for story but never have had a child die. I have always known that would be the worst pain ever and possibly something I couldn't recover from. My newborn son spent 4 weeks in the nicu when he was born so I can empathize with some of the emotions especially considering without modern medicine he would not have lived more than a few days. But we were very fortunate and he made a full recovery he's now 8 weeks old and such a joy.

BUT then I read it again with an open heart and shed some tears and knew you were right. My grandmother always had a plaque in her home that said "let Go, let God" she was a woman with very strong faith and I wish at times I shared that in common with her. It doesn't come as easily for me.

Thank you for your post it brought me tears and comfort at the same time.
 
Jolts,

I think your post touched my heart more than any I have ever read. I admire the fact that through all the adversity you and your husband have been through, you still realize that God is your source of strength. May God keep his arms around you and your family and give you that peace and comfort that only he can give.
 
Maybe. I just wish he would show up to discuss this.
 
wow, i came on this morning and read your post before i opened it was thinking that god hates me , i never write on here i only read, but i must tell you i feel that way so often , but deep down inside my broken heart i no he loves me and this is all a share in his suffering, we are all called to be his special people and share in his glory, my prayer are with you and all.god bless
 
I have decided that God and the Universe really thinks that we are "special" as we keep getting more on our plate! Actually, it is more like an never ending buffet line at the all you can eat! I find laughter and reading the Forum Follies very therapeutic :]
 
I think God has a warped sense of humor. Some days I think he's a real a--hole. Other days I think he's just screwing with us. Most days I just wonder what the heck the master plan is.

AL.
 
Thank you all for your posts. I love how we can all be so honest here.

After our son, Joshua, died, I struggled with trying to figure out why. I have been a Christian since I was a teenager and this really challenged my faith. While Joshie was fighting for his life, we were praying....we were following God....we were trying to do everything right. And, still, he died. But he didn't die suddenly...he died a very horrible death. It shook my faith. It almost destroyed me. It almost destroyed our marriage.

It took a long time before I could pray....except for the times I was yelling at God. I was asking Him "WHY?" Joshua was an innocent little baby. He deserved to live! (See first posting if you don't know what I'm talking about.) I used to cry for hours and my prayers would be moaning, gut-wretching non-words. For so long, my prayers would be empty. I mean, if God didn't answer my prayers for Joshua the way I wanted, then what was the use? Why bother?

We went to a Christian counselor. He didn't solve all of our problems and he didn't answer many of our questions. But he did help put things in perspective. He helped us to see that there is no way that we are ever going to understand God. I mean, think about it......we're expecting to understand a God that is so big that He just spoke and the countless stars in the sky were formed...and He knows them all by name. We're expecting to understand a God that has always been and will always be. A God that knows how many hairs are on our head...for some that's not such an amazing feat! It would be like us trying to explain to our newly crawling baby why they can't play in the middle of the street. That baby's mind can't comprehend the reasons why they can't play in the street. And we can't comprehend what God's reasons are....what His plans are.

So, what now? Okay, so I'll never understand why Joshua died or why my husband got ALS. What do I do about that?

I'm a "bottom line" kind of person. So, it all came down to the bottom line.

I had a choice to make. There are 2 possibilities. #1 God doesn't exist, which means that there is no heaven and no hell. Or #2 God does exist, which means that the Bible is true and there is a heaven and a hell. I want to see my son Joshua again and, now my husband. I want to know whether my miscarried twins were boys or girls or one of each. I want to see my dad and all my other loved ones. If there is no heaven and no hell (possibility #1), then there is no after-life and I'll never get to see them....there is no hope. But, if there is a heaven and a hell (possibility #2), then there is a possibility that I will see them again, but that would only be in heaven....not hell. Think about it...what is hell? For me it would be utter darkness, never-ending pain, and worst of all.....being alone.

So, my only choice is to make sure that I go to heaven. Because if there is no heaven or hell or God...then it really doesn't matter what I believe. But, if there is....then if I don't follow God, then I won't be in heaven when my time comes.

So, I made my choice to follow a God that I don't understand...and to accept that He is my LOVING Father. And, just as we parents know what is best for our newly crawling baby, He knows what is best for us.

It's funny how choosing to follow a God that confuses me, has given me a peace and a HOPE that can not be described or understood. I can't tell you how wonderful it is to know that this crappy world is not all there is....and that someday, I will be re-united with those I love.

"If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 and "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13
 
Jolts,

I made the decision over 40 yrs ago to accept Jesus Christ as Lord of my life, and have never regretted it.
"And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:7 I am a living witness of how true this verse is in my life. I went from hunting, fishing, playing golf, refereeing basketball, umpiring baseball and softball and holding down a full time job to not being able to stand without holding on to something, but yet I have this peace within me that the human mind cannot comprehend. You stated, "So, my only choice is to make sure that I go to heaven. Because if there is no heaven or hell or God...then it really doesn't matter what I believe. But, if there is....then if I don't follow God, then I won't be in heaven when my time comes." I often wondered why more people don't look at it in the same way as you put it. I'm going to close with the words to this song that mean so much to me.

I don't know about tomorrow,
I just live from day to day.
And I don't borrow from its sunshine
'Cause the skies might turn to grey. And I don't worry about the future,
'Cause I know what Jesus said,
And today I'm gonna walk right beside him
'Cause he's the one who knows what is ahead.
There are things about tomorrow
That I don't seem to understand
But I know who holds tomorrow
And I know who holds my hand.
And each step is getting brighter
As the golden stairs I climb.
And every burden is getting lighter
And all the clouds are silver lined.
And, over there the sun is always shining
And no tears will ever dim the eye
And the ending of the rainbow
Where the mountains, they touch the sky.
There are many things about tomorrow
I don't seem to understand
But I know who holds tomorrow
And I know who holds my hand.
Yes I know who holds my hand.
 
I think God has a warped sense of humor. Some days I think he's a real a--hole. Other days I think he's just screwing with us. Most days I just wonder what the heck the master plan is.

AL.

Al, can I quote you on this? It's one of the most brilliant things you have said. I love your candor.
 
Great song Jen, thanks for sharing it.
 
Jen,
Thanks so much for the song. WOW! I never heard of this group before. I'm going to look for the album right now. Thanks so much!

JAKE,
Thanks for your posting! I love this community, although I'm sad that it even needs to exist.
 
Someone stated above that it can't get any worse, only better. I'd say that is true if you've hit the bottom. I haven't hit bottom yet; I'm still getting worse (albeit slowly).

Well, Okay, I guess it could be worse. I could be on the express down hill.

God loves me.
 
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