Dementia with ALS

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joni51

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I am really afraid that my husband has some dementia with this disease. I am tired and super sad tonight. I have started cleaning some houses to try to pay our bills, 3 big ones today...wow I am too old for this. He told unemployment about having ALS, needless to say they stopped his checks. Now it will be the end of April before we have any money coming in besides what I am making. I have a tree with NO presents under it, and His mind is just different, I can tell. I feel like I have already lost my real husband. :sad:
 
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Joni I am sorry you are going through this. I have not experienced Dementia but I have to believe that you know your husband is in there and Loves you more then ever. Stay strong and keep the faith. Please know your Forum Family is here for you!
 
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Joni, my husband has the same. His FTD was mild until recently. He would get very restless and fidget. He took the control for the bed and tried to change TV channels. I could tell when he is himself or when he is this other person. He choked on his phlegm last night and almost died. He was so frightened, he was shaking and crying for over an hour. Today he has no recollection of it. It is scary. The past week I found myself fearing everything and realized anxiety about the sickness and future was getting to me. I hope things get better for you.
 
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Oh, Joni, my heart breaks for you. I know that this is so hard anyway, before learning about the dementia. Three big houses is a lot for you to clean in one day. Joni, I am praying for you and hugging you. Meanwhile, hopefully there will be folks who read this who have concrete ideas to give you. I know you aren't the first, so maybe information will be shared. We have some really helpful folks who have dealt with the dementia, and some smart people who are incredibly knowledgeable about the money end. Please don't despair.

Love,
Ann
 
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I know he is still in there Ted, he is just not the same and I miss him. Pepper I am so sorry for you too! I realize I am not the only one that feels like I do, I am just so glad to talk to people that know what I am talking about. Ann you have a good heart and thanks for everyone beeing my friend and sounding board.
 
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Joni.. please bring your fears up at the next neurology appointment. If it IS FTD it could effect how the disease is treated. There are also medications that could help lessen symptoms like audio or visual hallucinations. Also, FTD doesn't really effect memory, so if your PALS is experiencing short term memory loss, it could be another form of dementia.. which is good, because there are more treatments available. But these are all things that do need to be assessed by your neuro. Wishing you the best.
 
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We don't see the doctor again until April Katie, He just is not interested in anything. Not me, the grandkids, going anywhere. He has a shop with tv and radio in it. He never comes in the house until he is tired and ready to go to bed.He flies off the handle real easy. I will ask him to get some stuff up for paperwork, nope he won't do it. I ask him to please let the dogs out enough while I am not here, get home..poop and pee because he lets won't let them out enough. We have no conversation anymore with each other. He won't watch any shows on tv like we both used to like, he now says they are stupid. It is like living with a grown kid. I have tried to talk to him about things but it is like he don't comprehend what I am saying. I just don't know. I have a 13 year old dog and a new puppy, the older dog does not like the puppy. So Bruce threw the older dogs ball toward the puppy, and of course he jumped on the puppy, and Bruce thought it was funny. NOT. If his mind was right he would never be intentionally cruel to anyone or an animal.
 
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Joni it would be hard to know for sure whether your husband is having some FTD symptoms or whether it is depression. He is newly diagnosed and as a result he has many things to sort out in his own head. He lost his job, and then was diagnosed with a disease that scares him as he contemplates the road ahead. My husband who has CIDP is a changed man since his diagnosis in 2007. He has not adjusted well to his losses ie. losing his career, atrophied hand and drop foot and generalized fatigue, and having to spend two days every 3 weeks at the hospital getting treatment. At times I think he has tuned out of our lives. I care for our horses, our dog and cat as he is so self preoccupied and distracted. When friends want me to do something with them, I often bow out saying I have to be home to care for the animals as hubby in likelihood would forget to feed them or himself while I was away. Often the premorbid personality of a person will certainly be accentuated when a catastrophic illness happens. I think my hubby was always somewhat self absorbed, and with his illness those self absorbed qualities come out stronger. He will spend hours with the computer just tuning out. I know he can't do the heavy horse chores anymore, but I would appreciate his company down at the barn--but that rarely happens. I got hubby onto an anti-depressant and that helps but he is a changed man.
On this forum, you can see all the personality differences and the different coping abilities when you read what people have written. Some are givers and some are takers. Some have a half full glass and some a half empty glass. I suspect that those traits were present before the disease struck, but they really jump to the front when illness hits. My husband is a good man, but he is one of those personalities that tends to the half empty glass. I am the care giver here (in a much smaller way than those with PALS) and it does take its toll on me. Joni try to take care of yourself during this journey and make sure you can have some time for you. Ask friends to come in and stay with hubby and ensure you get out with a friend to pamper yourself on a regular basis. Don't let hubby's illness swallow you and your personality. You will need to preserve the best parts of you to endure the journey that you are on. Don't sacrifice all of yourself along the way. My words may sound a little selfish, but I think that you and your husband will fair much better if you can keep the best part of you alive along the way by taking care of you too.
Laurel
 
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Laurel he is on zoloft. I can't even imagine what is going trough his mind because he has always been the one taking care of everyone else. He has had a lot of losses I know. I just want to be close to him before it gets bad and I feel like he is shutting me out. I know I need to take some time for me, and hopefully I can do that soon to keep my sanity. I guess I feel guilty because I can't make things better for him. My kids are around him alot though and they see changes too. He does not talk to anyone much. He is going to California in January to spend a week with high school friends for a week, thankfully all expenses paid for by them... anyway maybe he will have a good time and I will get some rest. You take care of yourself and try to take some time for yourself too! I would come help you with your animals if I could..lol I love all animals.
 
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Joni.. I agree with Laurel what you are describing sounds much more like depression. There are many depression medications.. not all work for all people. He may need a change in prescription or simply a change in dosage. If you don't have an appointment scheduled then a phone call to the doctor is in order. Even if it is early stage FTD ( they kind of mimic each other ) a change in medication could help. Glen's first anti depression med was Welbutrin. amiracle drug for many (including my son). It made Glen suicidal. Changed to Celexa.. made a huge difference. One thing you have to be now is an advocate. Don't just take "we'll talk in April" for an answer. Be annoying if you have to.. you and your husband both deserve the chance for as much good time as possible and if a change in medication can help that would be great!
 
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Ive been trying to search for more info about this. I have a question myself that i cant seem to find the answer to.
Can folks who have been diagnosed with ALS later on develop ftd? Or does it tend to happen at the same time? and also, how would a person know if someone has it if that person doesnt speak? I have heard that it effects speech, so im curious what to look out for when it comes to my PALS. He is already paralyzed head to toe and doesnt speak. on a vent. uses eye movement to talk. any input? thanks much
 
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Liz.. since they are considered by many neuros to be separate diagnoses they can indeed develop seperately. I'm not sure how to put this without sounding cold but... if someone has already lost their speech and movement I would think a diagnosis would be almost impossible and beyond that, not sure why you'd be looking for it? Most of the symptoms are behavioral... wandering, porn addiction, inappropriate sexual conduct and comments, inability to organize and complete tasks. Lack of empathy, emotional flattening and poor decision making are also key. In later stages, there can be audio and visual hallucinations. Is there something in particular that you are concerned about?
 
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Poor decision making would be Bruce now. In a nutshell.
 
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He has already been on 3 different antidepressants, and Dr Glass has him on something for anxiety.
 
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Joni... I seriously would call your neuro and get a referral for a psych work up.

This booklet has really really good info.. you might want to take a look, it's called:

Frontotemporal Disorders - Information for Patients, Families, and Caregivers
 

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