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NeoMD

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I've been reading the forums, specifically the DIHALS threads, for 15 months now. My ALS scare lasted 9 months and nearly shut my life down completely - but I've rarely ever thought about developing ALS myself over the past 6 months. I am an actively practicing Internal Medicine MD. I made a small donation to the forums today to say thank you for all the strength and support I've drawn from reading the stories of all the brave souls who have passed through these forums, and the reassurance provided by so many others.

This is my first post.

I believe ALS phobia should be its own diagnosis. I believe it is incredibly unique in the vast, crippling world of health anxiety disorders. The gradual onset and variety of initial symptoms creates a wave of uncertainty, onto which any human being with dreams and loved ones can surf endlessly. I had never been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, or any other mental health disorder prior to developing my fasciculations. It can happen to anyone.

I believe a negative EMG/NCS is not a cure for ALS phobia. I had one performed 6 months after my initial symptoms. I saw the leading expert on ALS in the state of Oregon, who reassured me completely. I continued to panic for three months thereafter, and I know for many this can last for years.

I believe one of the worst things you can do when fearing ALS is subject yourself to self-imposed strength tests. Finger manipulation tests. Toe strength tests. Running and weight-lifting and balancing and agility tests. Tongue manipulation tests. Tongue viewing tests in the mirror. The uncertainty over what the result means only deepens your anxiety, and the relief that comes with occasionally performing these tests adequately is so fleeting, it's like an IV narcotic. These tests can become addictive. And the inevitable muscle soreness pain and perceived weakness that follows will lead only to more anxiety, and more tests. It is a circle of hell that Dante forgot, but you will not. Even as a physician, trained to perform these tests on others and accurately interpret the results, when I performed them on myself I truly had no idea what they meant. The first step for my recovery was committing to stopping the self-testing.

I believe the information on the internet about initial symptom development in ALS is incredibly misleading. During my crisis, I dug deeply into all the medical literature available on initial symptoms in ALS. I knew the epidemiology cold. The truth is, there's still a lot we don't know. The anecdotal experience of the ALS specialist I saw did not consistently line up with the numbers I painstakingly gleaned from my research. Fasciculations or weakness first? Weakness in one limb or multiple first? Tongue and limb or just tongue for bulbar onset? Fasciculations without weakness for how long would rule out the diagnosis? 2 weeks? 6 months? I could regurgitate my learnings here, but I've come to believe they don't matter. Facts are not a cure for ALS phobia.

So what is the cure for ALS phobia? Because I believe there is one. As with many mental health ailments, it requires a personal investment into multiple modalities:

1. You need a supportive listener. Not someone who will tell you "knock it off, you don't have ALS, snap out of it." Someone with whom you can verbally share your symptoms and perceived symptoms. Someone who can listen compassionately and gently remind you you're ok today. Today you can still eat, and drink, and walk, and talk, even if some of those things feel difficult to you. This may be your doctor, your spouse, your best friend, your counselor, or yes, the wonderfully supportive reassuring moderators on these boards.

2. Ideally, you need a trained psychiatrist. That person can be #1, but it's best if they are additive to #1. Someone who can prescribe medication if necessary.

3. You need a primary care doctor. You won't trust them, but you need one anyway. There are many causes of fasciculations and weakness that may need to be investigated. You don't necessarily need a neurologist or an ALS specialist, but if your PCP thinks you might benefit from seeing one, then follow that path.

4. You need exercise. Not self-testing or exhaustion exercise, but genuinely enjoyable exercise.

5. You need time.

So that leaves us with the big elephant question in the room: "How do I know it's ALS phobia and not ALS?" Well, many deep dark months and ALS epidemiologic readings later, I can definitively say you won't. But if you follow the steps above and treat it like ALS phobia, I guarantee you that whatever the result, you'll be setting yourself up to succeed.

The single most reassuring thing I read over and over on these forums was not the stories of those who thought they had ALS and ultimately didn't, or those who had symptoms like mine and escaped a diagnosis, or the endless pages of facts. It was the posts from those who DO HAVE ALS. 100% of the time they came from a voice of strength. From someone who had learned to accept, had learned to maximize what they had, and seemed to have a fantastic quality of life. A quality of life that - paradoxical as it may seem - was not shared by those living with the phobia. I believe we all die eventually. And when we are face to face with our eventual fate, we are genetically prepared for it. That strength is powerful, and it's within all of us. So many on these forums who have passed away from ALS helped me see that. And that's a gift I can never repay.

Thank you again to these amazing forums, and all the wonderful people who keep them alive.
 
NeoMD, thanks for the insights. I think I'll use that term "ALS phobia." And I know you're right. The people WITH ALS seem to have a strength that the DIHALS haven't yet adopted.

--Mike
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad you have recovered.
I agree with almost everything you said. I take issue with the idea that the moderators here should be "supportive listeners" with whom the worried can share their symptoms and be reminded they are ok. Yes we and others try to answer concerns- once and then if ALS is not in picture we ask that people move on. As Mike and others have pointed out on numerous occasions we are not a general health or anxiety site. Our mission here is dealing with ALS and as you correctly point out fear of ALS while crippling is something else. We do not have time or energy to do what you suggest.
They need to find other people to fill that role
 
Thanks for this great post, you have put a lot of time and thought into it.

I think we do the right thing by listening compassionately and then referring people with ALS phobia to seek mental health assistance. Your recovery is really great to hear as it helps us to assure people that if they seek help they can cure their malady.

As all members here (mods included) either have ALS, are caring for someone with ALS, or have cared for someone until ALS took them, we cannot possibly give our time to continuing to assist people with ALS phobia, it is a huge job that requires dedication. We sympathise deeply, but our commitment is to people with ALS or those caring for them. That takes an enormous amount as is.
 
Thank you for your responses.

I very much support the recommendations to listen compassionately and ask those with unlikely ALS symptoms to move on and seek mental health assistance.

My comments should in no way imply that the DIHALS forums or their moderators should serve as an ongoing audience for ALS phobia symptom management. That is clearly neither the role or expertise of the forums and their moderators.

Thanks again for everything you do for the ALS and ALS-associated community.

Neo
 
Neo, I'm happy you've conquered your fears, but skeptical of your novel dz entity, which I encourage Mike et.al. not to use as a label. It's too easy and could actually make the manifestations of irrational DIHALS fears worse.

Phobias are about avoidance. People refuse to go camping because they are afraid of spiders. Our most fearful, on the other hand, come here and won't leave. They visit doc after doc and endure repeated, uncomfortable tests. This seems more like a health anxiety/obsession variant than a dz-specific revulsion. And how do most them begin? "I had these sx and I Googled them and it says ALS..." and this is true, if you try it yourself.

So many don't choose the dz; Google does. There is also a social/peer validation aspect to it that does not characterize phobias generally, if you read these threads.

Anyway, hope your enhanced insight into your own thinking helps your patients in future.
 
Good distinction, Laurie. Def not phobia. Maybe obsession.
 
Laurie makes a great point as always. For some it definitely seems an OCD issue with anxiety thrown in. When I visited the health anxiety forum I was struck, not only by the irrationality of it all, but how many feared diseases that are incredibly rare- not ALS rare but things that have only a handful of reported cases in the world. I think they feel unimportant and their subconscious is trying to make them special. It is very sad
 
ALS Munchausen
 
I very much appreciate everyone's responses. A couple of seemingly necessary clarifications:

Laurie, I think your insight is invaluable, you are clearly well-respected, and your contributions are the fabric of this wonderful community. I however respectfully disagree with your characterization of a phobia. Aversion of the stimulus is not a necessary criterion per the DSM-5, and this is in fact directly addressed within those criteria:

"The phobic situation(s) is avoided or else endured with intense anxiety or distress."

Other DSM-5 criteria of a specific phobia may also ring true in your experience with individuals suffering from this affliction:

"The avoidance, anxious anticipation or distress in the feared situation(s) interferes significantly with the person's normal routine, occupational (or academic) functioning, or social activities or relationships."

In addition, I would argue the intense attraction to these forums and web-searches by these individuals is not evidence of them facing their phobia, but indeed an attempt to escape or avoid the thoughts that they actually are developing ALS (thus satisfying even your own impression of a phobia). The internet becomes a haven as various pearls can be plucked from each description or testimonial that are reassuring and supportive of ALS being the wrong diagnosis. However fleeting that reassurance, it fuels them coming back again and again. I'm sure you have all witnessed this multiple times.

As a final point on "ALS phobia," this is not my own term, and it matters not to me whether you choose to use it in the future. It was suggested to me by the ALS/MND specialist who performed by exam and EMG/NCS. I simply agree with her.

Nikki, I truly admire your strength and all that you bring to this community. I do disagree that ALS phobia is a subconscious attempt by those affected to get attention, or in your words "make them feel special." In fact that couldn't be further from the case. These individuals are seeking normalcy. Normal motor neuron health, normal psychological health, and a return to their normal lives before Google suggested they should think about ALS. Many of their stories contain obvious descriptions of significant social stressors - new children, new jobs, recently lost a job or left school, or recently suffered a personal loss of some kind. I would bet my degree that all ALS phobia posters want nothing more than to return to normalcy and stop considering themselves as epidemiologically "special."

While the semantics of this entity may remain a disagreement, I think it's clear we all agree these people would benefit from professional mental health support. I hope that conclusion is shared amongst all of us, and we can continue to compassionately emphasize that point for those seeking answers here.
 
I did not say that all the DIHALS posters fall into the category of wanting on some level to be special. Read it again. I was talking about people on a health anxiety website who fear diseases that are far more rare than ALS most of which you have not seen nor will you see in practice. But it likely applies to some here. You can not put all the DIHALS in one bucket. Certainly some fit your description, but some do not. Many need mental health care as you say for various reasons Some just need information and some need their medical problem addressed by their doctors
 
Respectfully, this sounds like an "OTHER" discussion, rather than a "Do I Have ALS" conversation.
 
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