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From being on this site and asking people such as Wright, I have been told that with ALS atrophy, weakness must procede atrophy. I am not writing here to dispute this, but I am just writing here to ask some questions. One of which is a specific question to you and one a more general atrophy muscle wasting question.

1. If your atrophy occurs in a muscle you don't use much (in my left foot it is side of foot and between same left foot tendons) would you still have weakness proceeding atrophy, or could be it be the other way round?

2. This is a more general question and will just allow me and others to understand ALS muscle wasting atrophy better with it. In ALS does atrophy occur because of paralysis and weakness in a muscle or is it because of a neurological problem? I say this because in reading about ALS, it says neurologist's look for fasciculation coupled with atrophy or weakness. This would suggest you can have atrophy first without weakness?

I might admittedly have health anxiety, but these questions are just to help me to allow me to understand it better, and not from flying into an state of health anxiety.

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You might have health anxiety? Uh, there's no "might" about it; you do.

Muscle atrophy with ALS occurs mainly because of denervation (disuse plays a much smaller role).

Listen to me again for the billionth time: "Weakness precedes muscle atrophy!" End . . . of . . . story!

P.S. "Precedes" means . . . happens beforehand . . . occurs prior to something else . . . happens first . . . etc., etc., etc.

P.P.S. You don't even have muscle atrophy, so why you're asking these questions is a complete mystery to me. Be done with this $%^$ing non-sense!
 
Atrophy in ALS happens because the nerves supplying signals to the muscles deteriorate. Without stimulation from these nerves, the muscle weakens and eventually shrinks (atrophies).
 
You might have health anxiety? Uh, there's no "might" about it; you do.

Muscle atrophy with ALS occurs mainly because of denervation (disuse plays a much smaller role).

Listen to me again for the billionth time: "Weakness precedes muscle atrophy!" End . . . of . . . story!

P.S. "Precedes" means . . . happens beforehand . . . occurs prior to something else . . . happens first . . . etc., etc., etc.

P.P.S. You don't even have muscle atrophy, so why you're asking these questions is a complete mystery to me. Be done with this $%^$ing non-sense!

Ok Wright, I understand what you're saying. But this also means for muscles you don't use often you'd still have weakness first before?
 
Just how likely do you think it is that ALS would start in a muscle that you don't use often or that you were blissfully unaware of before you started thinking about ALS? ALS is insidious but not so insidious that it would be able to infiltrate your body so precisely. If you notice weakness in a muscle that you don't use often, obviously it's weak because you don't use it, the same way that people who wear casts for an extended amount of time have weak arms/legs/whatever was in the cast when the cast finally comes off (disuse).

You cannot have atrophy without weakness. Not ever. ALS weakness is generally disproportionately large compared to atrophy in the beginning stages so if you suspect atrophy somewhere, yet you can still use it fine, it's almost certainly not atrophy, and definitely not atrophy due to ALS.
 
No, it is blatantly obvious that you do not understand what I'm saying. For the now, billionth plus one time:

MUSCLE WEAKNESS PRECEDES . . . I REPEAT . . . PRECEDES . . . MUSCLE ATROPHY!
 
Just outof interst, does everyone agree with Wright as this being true?
Also, what do people think of my pictures of my left foot? Does it look like muscle wasting atrophy to you?
 
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On a previous occasion you claimed that you were genuinely sorry for your selfishness in posting under multiple names demanding help from people who have huge difficulties in typing responses.

But now you want them to do that all over again 'just out of interest'.

I am genuinely sorry that you were lying, and even sorrier that I see no hope of you ever ceasing to be completely self obsessed.

But most of all I am sorry for the people who have tried so hard to help you, and are now being abused by you yet again...
 
The weekend is approaching!
 
What do you mean "agree" with me? IT'S A MEDICAL %$#&ing FACT. There is no "agree" or "disagree" when it comes to such things. That's like asking someone's opinion as to whether 2 + 2 = 4 . . . although I wouldn't put it past you.

If you had an ounce of knowledge on how the nerves innervate a muscle and the dynamic relationship between the two (something I've explained a gazillion times but you've either chosen to ignore it or you're too dense to get it), you wouldn't have asked such an ABSURD question.

Go get some much-needed help and do it quickly. Who would "agree" with that?

P.S. Just needed to add this: the question is not absurd (as I put it) because everyone should know the details of denervation and weakness . . . but rather . . . it is absurd because of the round-and-round we have been going through with this person (a person with multiple accounts, posting the same types of questions under different names). It has obviously been a complete waste of our time.
 
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Me..................lol
 
I sometimes wonder how effective reverse pyschology would be in these cases
 
I am so sorry for your situation, and the attack you are under here, not having a diagnosis with any disease is one of the hardest stages to go through and can cause a level of anxiety in itself. I know i could have been diagnosed alot earlier -12 months earlier - and thats been generous - You will get to a stage if it is mnd that it is no longer a matter of opinion - a zebra has stripes.

Mr Wright you could be helpful and less rude and righteous - you do not have this disease so stop being such an arrogant prat
 
apologies but i have just had enough of reading Mr wrights rude posts... two wrongs don't make a right... (on my behalf) i wish i hadn't posted the 'arrogant pratt' bit but cant take it baclk now - no edit shown for me on my own post... dang ... "think b4 i post' ... but several times i have read your posts mr wright and just thought how rude and mean you are - i have read other posts by people supporting you and and saying how good you are with your time taken... and how long you have been around for .... thats no excuse you are only as good as the "now'
 
Also another thought - have you considered going to a neuro physiotherapist - in my experience they have and take the time and ask all the questions ... my first physio assessment two years prior to my diagnosis picked up on weakness that i was not aware of ... and highlighted "neuro-muscular" with specific findings .... how is your running/jumping.. side step -balance... I wasnt aware that i couldnt really jump anymore... it just quietly slowly somehow happened ... the body is amazing in the way that other things start taking over without you realising... see other specialists and get written reports before going to a neuro, that takes the "you' out of it and has them quickly dealing with issues highlighted by other professionals
 
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