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indigosd
10-16-2009, 03:24 PM
I have copied and pasted the email that I just received from MDA about H1N1.

To: MDA Families
From: MDA Outreach
Date: Oct. 16, 2009
The H1N1 Nasal-Spray Flu Vaccine:
What Individuals with Neuromuscular Diseases Need to Know


People diagnosed with neuromuscular diseases are among those prioritized to receive the H1N1 vaccination, and the first doses of the H1N1 vaccine are now being distributed to state health departments throughout the country. While the nasal-spray flu vaccine is currently widely available, the injectable H1N1 vaccine has not yet made its way to most states for distribution. Individuals diagnosed with neuromuscular diseases should not receive the nasal-spray flu vaccine and instead should wait to receive the injectable H1N1 vaccine.


Who does the CDC recommend receive the H1N1 vaccine?
Anyone diagnosed with a neuromuscular disease and any close family members and caregivers. People who are in contact with others with severely weakened immune systems when they are being cared for in a protective environment should not receive the nasal spray vaccine. Click here for a complete list of those prioritized at higher risk of complications from H1N1.


What form of the vaccine does the CDC recommend that people with neuromuscular diseases receive?
The injectable H1N1 vaccine. The nasal mist of the H1N1 vaccine contains a live virus and, unlike the general public, individuals with neuromuscular disease are at increased risk of complications from the nasal mist vaccine.


If my child's school is administering the H1N1 vaccine, what should I do?
Parents of children with neuromuscular diseases should ensure that their child NOT receive the H1N1 vaccination via nasal mist. According to the CDC, children whose classmates are provided the nasal mist are not at an increased risk of infection due to exposure. Click here for more information about exposure to people who have received the nasal mist.


For additional questions regarding the nasal-spray flu vaccine, log onto the MDA H1N1 Resource Center.


An ounce of prevention … will help to protect you and your loved ones this flu season.

Zaphoon
10-16-2009, 05:21 PM
This is news to me. Thank you for posting it.

Blackpool
10-16-2009, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the info.

flyingaseagles
10-16-2009, 05:31 PM
indigosed, I hope you don't mind but I posted this also to my facebook . Thanks for posting this

shelleynshaggy
10-16-2009, 10:25 PM
I really wish I would have seen this. I knew Jim couldn't get the nasal mist - but I got it. It was my last day at work on my 2nd job and I figured I would get 1 last thing from them. I thought I was doing a good thing. I guess, like everything else it is in God's hands.

I will make sure my kids get the injections instead (my original plan anyhow.) I never thought of checking which vaccine they gave at school - will call first thing Monday.

Thanks for the info.

Rachelle

indigosd
10-17-2009, 04:53 AM
I am so glad that you all saw this! Shelley, wasn't your last day some time ago? If he has no s/s of H1N1 now you should be just fine! :] I had a reaction to the Flu vaccination 2 weeks ago so I can't even have the shot. :[ Food for thought, have any of you had your PALS gotten the Pneumonia or the Shingle vaccine or had your Dr. suggest it? No one reccommmeded it for my Husband but I think he should have them. I am going to research it.

shelleynshaggy
10-18-2009, 12:23 AM
My last day was Wed. I was "lucky" enough to get 2 days this month (one on a last minute vacation request.) Officially, I am still "employed" there - but no more hours for at least the rest of Oct and Nov and 1st part of Dec.

I got my shot vaccine on Wed - no reaction from me or Jim - thank God.

Jim's Dr recommended the pneumonia vaccine - and he got that and his "regular" flu shot. Still waiting for the H1N1 shots. The Cleve Clinic isn't even giving them to all pt care employees yet d/t shortages. From what I have seen I strongly believe in the shots. I would much rather be safe then sorry.

serenade
10-20-2009, 07:01 AM
I received this in an e-mail from my health food store today any thoughts of if this is true?

Subject: DR. RUSSELL BLAYLOCK ON SWINE FLU

this is an email sent to a friend of Dr. Blaylock and is now being
forwarded to anyone interested. Please pass it along. Also note the
attached biography of Dr. Blaylock. Dr. Blaylock is a board
certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU
School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and microsurgical residency at the Medical University of
South Carolina in Charleston, SC.


No one should take this vaccine (Swine Flu vaccine) it is one of the
most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalling (MF-59), which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus.
The newsletter for August covers this and it may not be out yet.
This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War
syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200%
increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou George disease). This virus
H1N1 kills by causing a œcytokine storm, which means that it cause the bodys immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing
young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have
weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune
stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality
of the virus much greater.

kelly
10-20-2009, 10:39 PM
I am a nervous wreck. My 8 year old son was home with the flu..high temp of 103.7 today. We all had the flu shot..but not the H1N1. I just received word that a girl that was at a bday party with him on Sunday was diagnosed with the H1N1. Should I call my hubby's Dr. tomorrow to inform them of this situation. I have been keeping him away from his Dad as much as possible..but not always sucessful. Any thoughts on this situation??? Kelly

BethU
10-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Yes, I'd sure call your husband's doctor. Poor boy, I hope it's not H1N1. Fingers crossed ...

brooksea
10-21-2009, 10:33 PM
Kelly please let us know how your son, you and your husband are doing! My Gosh!!!!!!!

myndee11
10-22-2009, 08:29 AM
FYI-

All flu v.c.c.i.n.e.s contain M.E.R.C.U.R.Y , !!!! and M.E.R.C.U.R.Y causes neurodegenerative diseases, ALS included!!! Please research !! Your dr will tell you that its only trace amounts and its safe but its not. Dr's only know what they are told, speak to a scientist who knows !!!

Erica
10-22-2009, 08:06 PM
What about the mercury in the seafood?
I think complications from H1N1 in PALS are more dangerous then Mercury in vaccine!

Blubear
10-27-2009, 06:54 PM
Just an FYI to the first writer of this thread, yes ALS patients are on a priority, but only up to the age of 64. Interesting what serenade said, I am going to look further into this.

Big Mike
10-30-2009, 10:31 PM
I would suggest that everybody (including myself) research the vaccine very carefully before deciding to take it or not. That includes talking to your doctor and neuro. I do know one thing: the hot bed issue on the dangers of mercury and flu shots is way overhyped.

indigosd
11-16-2009, 08:57 AM
Update-our son came down with H1N1. All three of us were put on Tamiflu. My Husband did get the H1N1 vaccination and we are all doing just fine. :] I can NOT get the H1N1 because I had a reaction to the seasonal flu vaccination. My Husband was also given the Pneumonia Vaccine and will go back in December to get the Shingles Vaccine. He has always had such a time with cold sores that he is a prime candidate to get shingles which we want to avoid at all costs!!

BethU
11-16-2009, 02:13 PM
I'm SOOO glad your son ... and you and your husband ... are OK !! Thanks for the update.

About mercury:
M.E.R.C.U.R.Y causes neurodegenerative diseases, ALS included

If there is proof that mercury causes ALS, that is a scientific breakthrough indeed! I'd love to know the source for that. So far, the only causal agents for ALS that I've heard of are the gene implicated in familial ALS and the fruit-bat-toxin link in the Guam cluster. Anybody who eats tuna casserole or a funa salad sandwich gets a higher dose of mercury than is in a vaccine. (I just made that fact up, but it's in line with what I read.)

Got the regular flu shot as always, and also got the H1N1 shot, which gave me a mild flu-like reaction for a couple of hours the next day. I really want the shingles vaccine, but can't seem to get my doctor to focus on it.

Good luck everybody in this flu season!

peter57
11-16-2009, 04:36 PM
I am also glad all is well with your son and husband.

Late last week i got the H1N1 shot, no side effects at all and as i posted on another thread re the mercury content the doctor said there is more in the fish you eat than in the shot.

cheers
Peter

clippedwings
11-16-2009, 09:33 PM
I am amazed at the hype that the media has created concerning H1N1. Peter, your doctor is either misinformed or a liar. The maximum mercury you could ingest from a large ocean game fish is just over 3mcg. By contrast, each vaccination drawn from a multi-use vial contains up to 25mcg of the neurotoxin mercury. This video from the University of Calgary shows how fast mercury kills brain neurons:

YouTube- How Mercury Causes Neurodegeneration (Brain Damage)

or

YouTube- How Mercury Causes Neurodegeneration (Brain Damage)

The only way to avoid the mercury is to ask for vaccine in a prepackaged single use syringe. Then you are still subject to the squalene and formaldehyde. You must educate yourself on this issue. The information is there. As an ALS patient who has no spare neurons left, I'll be damned if I intentionally kill more of them by taking a rushed vaccine with no proof of efficacy just to avoid the flu. My wife and young daughter also refuse the vaccines. Brain neurons are too precious, and I don't want my daughter loaded up with mercury and risking neurodegenerative disease. Knowledge is power.

clippedwings
11-16-2009, 09:45 PM
From the FDA website, here is what is in the yummy flu vaccine:

Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is formulated to contain 15 mcg hemagglutinin (HA) of influenza A/California/07/2009 (H1N1) v-like virus per 0.5 mL dose. Gelatin 0.05% is added as a stabilizer. Each 0.5 mL dose may contain residual amounts of formaldehyde (not more than 100 mcg), polyethylene glycol p-isooctylphenyl ether (not more than 0.02%), and sucrose (not more than 2.0%).

There is no thimerosal used in the manufacturing process of the single-dose presentations of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine. The multi-dose presentation of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine contains thimerosal, a mercury derivative, added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose of the multidose presentation contains 25 mcg mercury.

Antibiotics are not used in the manufacture of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine.

All presentations of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine do not contain latex.

clippedwings
11-16-2009, 10:38 PM
Interesting to note the EPA limit on mercury from fish. It is .1mcg/kg of body weight. I weigh 58 kilograms. My daily mercury limit is 58 x .1 = 5.8 mcg. A single vaccine will give you a whopping 25 mcg of mercury. Double that if you get the regular flu and the H1N1 vaccine! The massive dose of mercury is even more obscene for children with lower body weight.

So the doc says you get more mercury from fish? Those who educate themselves see the lie. My family and I will happily risk the flu. The risk from the neurotoxin mercury is several magnitudes higher.

Beth, here is a video from the University of Calgary showing how mercury causes neurodegenerative disease:

YouTube- How Mercury Causes Neurodegeneration (Brain Damage)

You will have to copy/paste to your browser. Posts with active links seem to be deleted. Sorry.

BethU
11-16-2009, 11:12 PM
The maximum mercury you could ingest from a large ocean game fish is just over 3mcg. By contrast, each vaccination drawn from a multi-use vial contains up to 25mcg of the neurotoxin mercury

So, if you only eat fish once a year, you're safe. If you should happen to eat fish a couple times a month, in a year's time, you'd get three times the amount of mercury as in a single vaccination drawn from a multi-use vial.

Not saying mercury is harmless ... hardly!! ... and I respect your decisions about your family's health, but to me, there seems to be a greater danger from dying of flu (especially H1N1 and young people) than trace amounts of mercury and neurological impairment, and no link has yet been established to ALS. A huge amount of mercury contamination, as in Japan in the 50s and 60s, is a different kettle of fish, so to speak .... but oddly, with all the deformities and neurological problems mercury produced in the massively contaminated Japanese fishing villages, the rate of ALS in the affected population did not go up.

It's an individual judgement call. You provided good information. Thank you!

GlenBrittle
11-17-2009, 05:32 PM
Im with Beth.

I already have this effin disease.

Be damned if I will be taken out by the flu.

I got the shot.

Glen

clippedwings
11-17-2009, 05:39 PM
It amounts to a nasty game of chance, with your health being at stake. There are other factors to consider such as how many mercury fillings you have in your mouth and how mercury behaves when introduced into the blood stream. If you are lucky, mercury will precipitate out of the blood and lodge in body tissue before reaching the brain. If your luck runs out, mercury will stay in solution quickly crossing the blood-brain barrier, and begin to do its work as seen in the video. The body has only a small capacity to excrete mercury naturally. If you have mercury fillings, that capacity is lost.

If you do eat certain types of fish regularly, you can indeed exceed 25 mcg of mercury over time. Time is the pivotal factor. With the vaccine, your system is "bombed" with 25 mcg of mercury increasing the likelihood that significant amounts of mercury will reach the brain. It isn't humanly possible to consume enough fish in one day to reach 25 mcg of mercury.

One last factor to consider is that the H1N1 vaccine has NOT been tested for safety or efficacy in children under 18, or pregnant women. This is just one reason why all five of the vaccine manufacturers have liability immunity. Children getting the H1N1 are living experiments because short and long term effects are unknown.

Speaking of the safety of our children, a news story raises important issues today:

Before You Vaccinate - Video - FOXNews.com (http://video.foxnews.com/11660547/before-you-vaccinate)

CDC says that if your child contracts H1N1, it should be treated as the regular flu with no doctor visit required. What will be the long term effect on our children? My daughter is just now recovering from the flu. Fever never went above 101.9.

Everyone must make their own decision, and everyone needs all the information to make an educated decision.

Big Mike
11-18-2009, 11:10 PM
Thanks for the perspective John. However....

You can request vaccines without the preservatives, including mercury. And, as far as mercury fillings go, if I have them, I would never consider having them removed and replaced with other fillings. I would rather not have the flu, which could have an adverse effect on ALS progression if it's a particularly nasty bug.

Zaphoon
11-18-2009, 11:55 PM
Shucks! I am a fish lover. I love it baked, broiled, fried and bargequed. Am I too late?

Blubear
11-19-2009, 04:01 AM
Zophoon---My dad had a metals test done thru his neuro, and I believe that will tell you how much metals such as mercury has built up in your system. We printed a list from the FDA of the levels of mercury contained in each type of fish. Fish is good for you, but I believe you should try to stick to the fish that have smaller quantity of mercury levels if you eat it on a regular basis. My parents ate fish regularly, but my dads metal test came back normal.
Hugs, Blubear

Zaphoon
11-19-2009, 09:50 AM
Thanks Bluebear!

My guess is, with all of the testing that has been done on my blood so far, one of the tests was probably for metals. They haven't done the 24 hour urine collection on me yet but I think its because no one wants to hang around me for that long collecting urine.

Blubear
11-19-2009, 02:56 PM
Zaphoon, The metals test that my dad took required him to fast for 24 hours and then collect his urine over a weekend and that was how it was tested. Not through the blood. You may want to check it out.
Hugs, Blubear

myndee11
11-25-2009, 03:10 PM
Yes clippedwings !!!

Thank you, well said, my son has Mito and was not suppossed to walk or even live this long he will be 10 on Dec 3rd !!! and he is running playing football, is attending public school 4th grade, he is healthier than he has ever been all because I detoxed his little fragile body of all the neurotoxins and envoronmental toxins and replaced his diet with raw whole foods and natural supplements. He went from a dying frozen little body to an active healthy child !

Thank goodness for Dr Green I love you

Kevinski
11-26-2009, 01:17 AM
the media here in canada has totally dropped the ball and ther has been far too nuch fear mongering about the whole system plus reports that the flu shots are not safe.I know a lady who has A L S like myself who swears a flu shot caused her to get A LS.So amm not convinced really one way or the other but have chosen not to get the flu shot


    
   
   
   
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